What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?

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coolboy66	What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 287 (05/20/07 10:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	This means, what if it wasn't a twist, and the jury always voted on the final three, and it was a jury of nine. I was thinking about it the other day. Richard/Kelly/Rudy-I think Rudy would have won. Tina/Colby/Keith-I think Tina would still have won. Ethan/Kim/Lex-Lex may have taken it, but Kim still had no chance, Ethan may have still won. Vecepia/Neleh/Kathy-Kathy, in a unamious vote I think. Brian/Clay/Jan-Brian maybe, but Jan could get the sympathy, underdog vote maybe. Jenna/Matt/Rob-Rob or Jenna, but leaning towards Rob. Sandra/Lillian/Jon-Sandra still, but Jon maybe, for playing the best game. Chris/Twila/Scout-I don't care, worst season, Chris still would have ugh.... Tom/Katie/Ian-A close vote between Tom and Ian, I'm not sure who would have won. Danni/Stephenie/Rafe-Best final three IMO, but Danni still would have won. Aras/Danielle/Terry-Terry or Aras, most likely Aras.
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#1	[-]
Posts: 6516 (05/21/07 1:42 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	As if we haven't had this happen before...but I'll bite. Borneo: I'd assume the same final three. Kelly wins immunity and turns on Sue. Rudy is your $1 million winner. Sue - Rudy Sean - Richard/Rudy Colleen - Rudy Gervase - Rudy Jenna - Kelly Greg - Richard Gretchen - Rudy Joel - ? Dirk - Rudy Australian Outback: Certainly the same final three as Keith is useless. Tina just edges out Colby, again. Elisabeth - Tina Roger - Colby Amber - Colby Nick - Colby Jerri - Tina Alicia - Tina Jeff - Tina (He's mentioned at Sucks that she asked his tribe early on who they disliked and idiot Kimmi said "Jeff" which is how they knew he had the previous votes against him...somehow, I'd think he would respect that) Mike - Colby (Man Power!) Kimmi - Tina (Girl Power!) Africa: Ethan is dropped for obvious reasons. Either Big Tom or Lex is your winner. No idea how the jury's votes would fall. Marquesas: Kathy is voted out before the final. Vecepia picks up the votes of Rob and Sean. Paschal sweeps up everyone else. Thailand: Brian hops to the finish and removes Helen before the big finale. Either batty Jan or Brian, probably the former. Helen - Brian Ted - Brian Jake - Brian Penny - Jan Ken - ? Erin - Clay Shii-Ann - ? Robb - ? Stephanie - ? Amazon: Rob's voted out unanimously right before the end. Jenna either sweeps or nearly does, depending on how much of a whiner Roger is. Pearl Islands: Sandra and Fairplay go into heated battle, while Lil ends up without any votes. Sandra secures Christa/Rupert, but has a harder time gaining the others, particularly members of the opposition tribe, whom Fairplay tried to, or did work with, on numerous occasions. JFP edges out a slight victory, 5-4, I'd imagine. Darrah's voted out at F4 because of ties to her old tribe (Ryan O, Savage, Tijuana and Osten would prove a near victory) All Stars: The anti-Romber bandwagon throws votes to Jenna L. Rob shockingly finishes last. Rupert - Jenna (long journey together), maybe Rob? Big Tom - Jenna Shii-Ann - Amber Alicia - Jenna Kathy - Rob (same season friends), maybe Jenna? Lex - Jenna Jerri - Amber (same season friends) Ethan - Jenna (same initial tribe, did each other a year or two prior) Colby - Amber (same season friends, she gave him a jury vote), possibly Rob Vanuatu: All the dudes give Chris victory. Scout being in the final only splits Twila's potential votes. Palau: Jury questioning would determine the distance between Tom and Ian. I imagine the former would do better, along with having more respect for leading the tribe through an unprecedented undefeated season. Katie doesn't earn a single vote. Guatemala: Danni wins the final challenge of endurance, votes out Rafe. Stephenie decides against making it a tie as she'd be facing two strong competitors instead of one. Danni earns every single vote except Rafe's. Panama: Like Yul, Terry's idol sneaks him into the F3. All three vote out Cirie for obvious reasons. Terry's plethora of former tribe mates seals an easy victory. Cirie - Aras Shane - Terry Courtney - Aras Bruce - Danielle, maybe Terry? Sally - Terry Austin - Terry Nick - Terry Dan - Terry Bobby - Aras
craig	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#2	[-]
Posts: 17117 (05/21/07 2:01 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Rudy and probably Rob C would both be gone at F3. Rudy was safe at F4 because he was no threat to win the last IC. If there was a final 3 he'd be targeted as a bigger jury threat than Sue. Rich would have to do an Earl and sell him out. Jenna would join Butch in voting for Rob C and Matt would probably tag along. If he didn't Butch still might win the tie breaker. In any event the guys would split the jury vote enabling Jenna to win.
cantthinkofaname	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#3	[-]
Posts: 1767 (05/21/07 3:13 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	That's the best I can do (at this hour at least) 1 Rich: Sean, Greg Kelly: Colleen, Gervase, Jenna, Gretchen?, Dirk?, Joel? Rudy: Sue 2 Tina: Alicia, Jerri, Elisabeth, Colby: Amber, Nick, Jeff?, Kimmi??, Mitchell?? Keith: maybe Rodger (probably vote Colby though) 3 Ethan: Tom, Frank, Teresa (could vote Lex), Kelly, Clarence?, Silas? Kim: Kim P. Lex: Brandon, Lindsey? 4 Vecepia: Sean Neleh: Paschal, Zoe, Gabe Kathy: Robert, Tammy, John, Rob, Gina 5 Brian: Jake, Shii Ann, Robb??, Stephanie?? Clay: Penny, Ken, Erin Jan: Helen, Ted 6 Jenna: Heidi, Alex, Dave, Shawna Matt: Butch, Roger Rob: Christy, Deena, Jeanne?? 7 Sandra: Darrah, Christa, Rupert, Ryan, Andrew, Shawn??, Osten?? Lill: Jon: Burton, Tijuana (Didn't raise her hand at the reunion for the "who'd vote for Lill?" in a Lill V. Jon F2.) 8 Amber: Shii Ann, Alicia, Jerri, Colby?? Rob: Kathy Jenna: Rupert, Tom?, Lex, Ethan? 9 Chris: Sarge, Chad, Rory, John, Eliza, Leann, Julie Twila: Ami Scout: Lisa 10 Tom: Janu, Caryn, Steph, Bobby Jon, Ibrehem?? Katie: Ian: Coby, Gregg?, Jenn?, James?? 11 (since Nakum won the big ball challenge, I'll put Margaret on the jury) Danni: Bobby Jon, Brandon, Amy?, Margaret? Steph: Rafe: Lydia, Cindy, Judd?, Gary?, Jamie?, 12 Aras: Cirie, Bobby? Danielle: Bruce Terry: Austin, Sally, Shane, Courtney, Dan, Nick
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#4	[-]
Posts: 6516 (05/21/07 2:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	*Quote:* Rudy was safe at F4 because he was no threat to win the last IC. If there was a final 3 he'd be targeted as a bigger jury threat than Sue. Rich would have to do an Earl and sell him out. There might be a tiebreaker if Kelly's gung-ho on eliminating Rudy....I see Richard sticking by him though, which was why he jumped off his perch in the first place, in order to not have to do the dirty work.
chad6	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#5	[-]
Posts: 3788 (05/21/07 5:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	assuming that for some reason they told the final three would be the same even though they knew about the final three twist: Borneo: Rich still wins, maybe Rudy Australia: Colby takes it, Keith gets 0 votes Africa: Ethan still wins Marquesas: Kathy wins but not unanimously Thailand: Brian wins??? must unlikeable final three ever?? Amazon: Jenna still takes it Pearl Islands: Sandra wins All-Stars: All three weren't very liked....Rob wins?? Vanuatu: Chris wins Palau: Tom still wins, Katie gets 0 votes Guatemala: Danni still wins, Steph gets 0 votes =( Exile Island: Terry wins...(boo)
SurvivorNinja	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#6	[-]
Posts: 3706 (05/21/07 6:56 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The thing is if there was a F3 and Jury of 9 since season 1, the final 3 would likely be a different group of people. That being said.... Kelly: Gretchen/Jenna/Gervase/Colleen Rich: Greg Rudy: Dirk/ Joel/Sean/ Sue Red would revote for Rudy Rudy Wins Survivor Borneo Colby: Michael/ Jeff/ Nick/ Amber/ Rodger Keith: N/A Tina: Kimmi/ Alicia/ Jerri/ Elisabeth Colby Wins Survivor Australia Ethan: Silas/ Lindsey/ Clarence/ Kelly/ Frank/ Teresa/ Tom Kim J: Kim P Lex: Brandon Ethan Wins Survivor Africa Kathy: Gina/ Rob/ John/ Tammy/ Robert Neleh: Gabriel/ Zoe/ Paschal Vecepia: Sean (Rob might have voted for Vee but...) Kathy still would have Won Survivor Marquesas Brian: Helen/ Ted/ Jake/ Shii Ann/ Robb/ Stephanie Clay: Penny/ Ken/ Erin Jan: N/A Brian Wins Survivor Thailand Jenna: Shawna/ Dave/ Deena/ Alex/ Heidi Matthew: Jeanne/ Butch Rob: Roger/ Christy Jenna Wins Survivor Amazon Jon: Burton/ Darrah (She may have still voted Sandra though) Lillian: Shawn/ Tijuana Sandra: Osten/ Andrew/ Ryan/ Rupert/ Christa Sandra Wins Survivor Pearl Islands Amber: Colby/ Ethan/ Jerri/ Alicia/ Shii Ann/ Tom Jenna: Lex/ Rupert Rob: Kathy Amber Wins All-Stars Survivor (Having 3 Australian Outcast survivors on the jury doesn't hurt her any) Chris: John K/ Rory/ Sarge/ Chad/ Leann/ Julie/ Eliza Scout: Lisa Twila: Ami Chris Wins Survivor Vanuatu Ian: James Katie: Coby Tom: Ibreham/ Bobby Jon/ Janu/ Stephenie/ Gregg/ Caryn/ Jenn Tom Wins Survivor Pulau Danni: Amy/ Brandon/ Bobby Jon/ Jamie/ Gary/ Judd/ Cindy Rafe: Brian/ Lydia Stephenie: N/A Danni Wins Survivor Guatemala Aras: Bobby/ Cirie Danielle: Bruce Terry: Dan/ Nick/ Austin/ Sally/ Courtney/ Shane Terry Wins Survivor Panama Not a whole lot changed Rudy, Colby, Kathy and Terry are the only ones that changed. -------------------------- If Fiji and Cook Islands had a F2 and 7 Juror situation I thik it'd go like this... Ozzy: Nate/ Parvati Yul: Candice/ Jonathan/ Adam/ Sundra/ Becky Yul Wins Survivor Cook Islands Becky: Jonathan/ Parvati/ Sundra/ Yul Ozzy: Nate/ Candice/ Adam Becky Wins Survivor Cook Islands Becky: Parvati Yul: Nate/ Candice/ Jonathan/ Adam/ Sundra/ Ozzy Yul Wins Survivor Cook Islands Dreamz: Cassandra Earl: Edgardo/ Mookie/ Alex/ Stacy/ Boo/ Yau-Man Earl Wins Survivor Fiji Cassandra: Dreamz Earl: Edgardo/ Mookie/ Alex/ Stacy/ Boo/ Yau-Man Earl Wins Survivor Fiji Cassandra: Edgardo/ Mookie/ Alex/ Stacy/ Boo/ Yau-Man/ Earl Dreamz: N/A Cassandra Wins Survivor Fiji
XtremeInnovator420	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#7	[-]
Posts: 2857 (05/21/07 9:00 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No offense, but in Cook Islands, if Parvati would vote for Ozzy over Becky AND Yul (which she did), I think it's safe to say she'd vote for him over Becky.
chad6	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#8	[-]
Posts: 3788 (05/21/07 10:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	^^^ that's exactly what i was thinking....
RavuRules	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#9	[-]
Posts: 1765 (05/22/07 12:17 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	*Quote:* No offense, but in Cook Islands, if Parvati would vote for Ozzy over Becky AND Yul (which she did), I think it's safe to say she'd vote for him over Becky It might not be totally off. Parvati said in a post-game interview that Becky was underrated and cited the fact that Becky was there supporting her when she'd gashed her finger with the machete. A lot of the jury probably felt compelled to vote for either Ozzy or Yul (instead of splitting the votes between Yul and Becky) given their respective prowess in their fields and pre-final jury discussions with one another in loser lodge. I think Parvati voted for Ozzy for 2 main reasons: (1) Nate, her closest ally, was voting for Ozzy (latino bond) (2) Yul, who she saw as the puppet master, had ended her game over Adam's. You can see her trying to work her charms on him from day 1 of the merge (sitting next to him at the merge meal and saying he was sexy for being smart). He was all business and correctly saw her as an enemy and threat. Naturally, she wouldn't want to vote for someone she doesn't relate to Becky, on the other hand, was probably closer to Parvati than Ozzy. The girls seemed to hang out with another, although they all knew what sides everyone was on due to strategy. At final jury speech, Parvati said she was floored that Becky would give up immunity to go against Sundra at F4, and it sounded like she was impressed as opposed to seeing that as a bad thing. Parvati said in post-game interviews that she values loyalty (which is why she went off on Jonathan), so I think she would've definitely respected Becky for that
SurvivorNinja	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#10	[-]
Posts: 3706 (05/22/07 12:48 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah, Here was my thinking on their votes... Nate: Ozzy > Yul > Becky Candice: Yul > Ozzy > Becky (Although I could see her vote Becky over Ozzy too) Jonathan: Yul > Becky > Ozzy Parvati: Becky > Yul > Ozzy Adam: Yul > Ozzy > Becky Sundra: Yul > Becky > Ozzy Becky: Yul > Ozzy Ozzy: Yul > Becky Yul: Becky > Ozzy I think the reason Parvati voted Yul over Becky in a F3 scenario was so her vote wasn't a throw away vote.
Flagomat	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#11	[-]
Posts: 76 (05/22/07 9:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I have only started watching from Amazon, so I would start my predictions from that season. Francois40 brought up a great point, that the F3 may have changed if it was a F3 situation, so I'm editing my predictions. Assuming the F4 is still the same, this is my prediction. Amazon Butch will still be voted out. Matthew probably would not want to go against Rob and Jenna and vote with Butch. Also, Butch is a harder to beat contestant. Jeanne - Matthew Shawna - Jenna Roger - Matthew Dave - Rob Deena - Jenna Alex - Jenna Christy - Rob Heidi - Jenna Butch - Matthew. Jenna wins with 4 votes, Matthew 3 and Rob 2. Pearl Islands Sandra will be voted out. Darrah was voted out this time because she was a physical threat, but Sandra is a bigger threat when it comes to the jury, so Jon and Lil will probably want Sandra out. Shawn - Jon Osten - Darrah Andrew - Darrah Ryan O - Darrah Rupert - Darrah Tijuana - Darrah Christa - Darrah Burton - Jon Sandra - Darrah Darrah wins with 7 votes, Jon 2 and Lil 0. All Stars Rupert will still have been gone. Jenna betrayed Rupert in the actual season, so I don't think she will have much trouble mentally to betray him, since Rupert is the only one she will probably lose to in the jury. Colby - Amber Ethan - Jenna Jerri - Jenna Lex - Jenna Kathy - Rob Alicia - Amber Shii Ann - Amber Tom - Amber Rupert - Jenna Jenna and Amber ties with 4 votes, and Rob 1. Vanuatu Eliza will still be voted out. She is harder to beat as compared to Scout and Twila, so Chris will rather go against them. Scout and Twila will also probably still want Eliza out. Lisa - Scout John K - Chris Rory - Chris Sarge - Chris Chad - Chris Leann - Chris Ami - Twila Julie - Chris Eliza - Chris. Chris wins with 7 votes, Scout 1 and Twila 1. Palau The tiebreaker will still take place and hypothetically, Ian will beat Jenn again, causing Jenn to be out. James - Ian Ibrehim - Tom Bobby Jon - Tom Coby - Ian Janu - Tom Stephanie - Tom Gregg - Ian Caryn - Tom Jenn - Tom Tom wins with 6 votes, Ian 3 and Katie 0. Guatemala Lydia is still voted out since they view her as a threat for the jury votes. Margaret(I picked her and not Brian because Nakum won that reward challenge) - Danni Ami - Danni Brandon - Danni Bobby Jon - Danni Jamie - Rafe Gary - Danni Judd - Danni Cindy - Danni Lydia - Rafe Danni wins with 7 votes, Rafe with 2 and Stephanie 0. Exile Island Danielle will still have to go against Cirie in a tiebreaker, leading to Cirie's ouster. Bobby - Aras Dan - Terry Nick - Terry Austin - Terry Sally - Terry Bruce - Danielle Courtney - Terry Shane - Terry Cirie - Aras Terry wins with 6 votes, Aras 2 and Danielle 1 If Cook Island and Fiji has 2 finalists and 7 jurors, this will be my prediction. Cook Islands Most likely Ozzy is going to win the final immunity challenge and he will pick Yul. Although Yul maybe harder to beat, I think that Ozzy will want to take the one that is more deserving. Yul vs Ozzy(most likely F2) Yul:Candice, Jonathan, Adam, Sundra, Becky Ozzy:Nate, Parvati Yul wins 5-2 Yul vs Becky Yul:Nate, Candice, Jonathan, Parvati, Adam, Sundra, Ozzy Becky:NA Yul wins 7-0 Ozzy vs Becky Ozzy:Nate, Jonathan, Parvati, Adam Becky:Candice, Sundra, Yul Ozzy wins 4-3 Fiji Dreamz can easily win the immunity challenge, since Boo and Yauman are already out and Earl and Cassandra are really weak in these challenges. He picks Cassandra not only because she is his closest friend out there, but also she is easier to beat than Earl. Dreamz vs Cassandra(most likely F2) Dreamz:Edgardo, Mookie, Alex, Yauman Cassandra:Stacy, Boo, Earl Dreamz wins 4-3 Earl vs Cassandra Earl:Edgardo, Mookie, Alex, Stacy, Boo, Yauman Cassandra:Dreamz Earl wins 6-1 Earl vs Dreamz Earl:Edgardo, Mookie, Alex, Stacy, Boo, Yauman Dreamz:Cassandra Earl wins 6-1
chapera rocks	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#12	[-]
Posts: 12939 (05/22/07 2:07 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Some of you are crazy to think Rudy would have won. You're forgetting that Pagong preferred Kelly over any of Tagi. Survivor Borneo Dirk: KELLY Joel: RICHARD? Gretchen: KELLY? Greg: RICHARD Jenna: KELLY Gervase: KELLY Colleen: KELLY Sean: RUDY Susan: RUDY 5 Kelly, 2 Rich, 2 Rudy Survivor Australian Outback Kimmi: COLBY? Michael: TINA? Jeff: TINA Alicia: TINA Jerri: TINA Nick: COLBY Amber: COLBY Rodger: COLBY Elisabeth: TINA 5 Tina, 4 Colby, 0 Keith Survivor Africa Silas: ETHAN Lindsey: LEX Clarence: ETHAN Kelly: ETHAN Brandon: LEX Frank: ETHAN Kim P.: KIM J. Teresa: ETHAN Tom: ETHAN 6 Ethan, 2 Lex, 1 Kim J. Survivor Marquesas Gabriel: NELEH Gina: KATHY? Boston Rob: KATHY? John: KATHY Zoe: NELEH? Tammy: KATHY Robert: KATHY Sean: VECEPIA Paschal: NELEH 5 Kathy, 3 Neleh, 1 Vecepia Survivor Thailand Stephanie: JAN Robb: BRIAN Shii Ann: CLAY Erin: JAN Ken: JAN Penny: JAN Jake: BRIAN Ted: JAN Helen: JAN 6 Jan, 2 Brian, 1 Clay Survivor Amazon Jeanne: MATTHEW Shawna: JENNA Roger: MATTHEW Dave: ROB C. Deena: ROB C. Alex: JENNA Christy: ROB C. Heidi: JENNA Butch: MATTHEW 3 way tie Survivor Pearl Islands Osten: JON Shawn: SANDRA Andrew: JON Ryan O.: JON Rupert: SANDRA Tijuana: JON Christa: SANDRA Burton: JON Darrah: SANDRA 5 Jon, 4 Sandra, 0 Lillian Survivor All Stars Colby: BOSTON ROB Ethan: BOSTON ROB Jerri: AMBER Lex: JENNA L. Kathy: BOSTON ROB? Alicia: AMBER Shii Ann: AMBER Tom: JENNA L.? Rupert: JENNA L.? 3 Way Tie? Survivor Vanuatu Lisa: SCOUT John K.: CHRIS Rory: CHRIS Lea: CHRIS Chad: CHRIS Leann: CHRIS Ami: TWILA Julie: CHRIS Eliza: CHRIS 7 Chris, 1 Twila, 1 Scout Survivor Palau James: TOM? Ibrehem: TOM? Bobby Jon: TOM Coby: IAN? Janu: TOM Stephenie: TOM Gregg: TOM Caryn: TOM Jenn: IAN? 7 Tom, 2 Ian, 0 Katie Survivor Guatemala Brian or Margaret: DANNI Amy: DANNI Brandon: DANNI Bobby Jon: DANNI Jamie: DANNI Gary: DANNI Judd: DANNI Cindy: DANNI Lydia: DANNI 9 Danni, 0 Stephenie, 0 Rafe Survivor Panama Exile Island Bobby: ARAS Dan: TERRY Nick: TERRY Austin: TERRY Sally: TERRY Bruce: DANIELLE Courtney: TERRY Shane: TERRY Cirie: ARAS 6 Terry, 2 Aras, 1 Danielle Survivor Cook Islands Ozzy vs. Yul Nate: OZZY Candice: YUL Jonathan: YUL Parvati: OZZY Adam: YUL Sundra: YUL Becky: YUL Yul 5, Ozzy 2 Yul vs. Becky Nate: YUL Candice: YUL Jonathan: YUL Parvati: YUL Adam: YUL Sundra: YUL Ozzy: YUL Yul 7, Becky 0 Becky vs. Ozzy Nate: OZZY Candice: BECKY Jonathan: BECKY? Parvati: OZZY Adam: OZZY Sundra: BECKY Yul: BECKY Becky 4, Ozzy 3? Either way, it's a 4-3 vote. Survivor Fiji Earl vs. Dreamz Earl 6, Dreamz 1 (Cassandra) Cassandra vs. Earl Earl 6, Cassandra 1 (Dreamz) Dreamz vs. Cassandra Edgardo: DREAMZ? Mookie: DREAMZ? Alex: CASSANDRA? Stacy: DREAMZ? Boo: CASSANDRA Yau Man: CASSANDRA? Earl: CASSANDRA Cassandra 4, Dreamz 3?
JaMalle	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#13	[-]
Posts: 4884 (05/22/07 6:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	S2 5 Tina: Jeff, Alicia, Jerri, Liz, and Michael. 4 Colby: Amber, Rodger, Kimmi?, and Nick. 0 Keith: NONE S4 5 Kathy: John, Tammy, Robert, Rob, and Zoe. 3 Neleh: Paschal, Gina? and Gabe? 1 Vecepia: Sean S5 4 Jan: Helen, Ted, Erin, and Ken? 3 Brian: Jake, Stephenie? and Robb. 2 Clay: Penny and ShiiAnn. S6 4 Jenna: Shawna, Alex, Hiedi, and Christy? 3 Matthew: Butch, Jeanne, and Roger. 2 Rob: Dave, and Deena. People giving "friend" votes. Christy could swing Rob, but I think she made a point of not being bitter towards Jenna when she voted for her. S7 5 Sandra: Christa, Rupert, Shawn, Darrah, and Osten. 3 Jon: Burton, Andrew, and Ryano 1 Lill: Tijuanna is convinced Lill played the ebst game because she backstabbed everyone, including Jon/Burton... S8 4 Jenna L: Jerri, Lex, Tom, Rupert 3 Rob: Colby, Ethan, and Kathy? 2 Amber: ShiiAnn and Alicia. S9 6 Chris: Eliza, Sarge, Chad, JohnK, Julie, and Leann. 2 Scout: Rory? and Lisa. 1 Twila: Ami. S10 5 Tom: Stephenie, Caryn, Janu, Ibe?, and BJ. 4 Ian: Coby, Jen, and Greg, James? 0 Katie: NONE S11 8 Danni: BJ, Brandon, Judd, Jamie, Cindy, Gary, Amy, and either Brian/Marg. 1 Rafe: Lydia 0 Stephenie: NONE S12 8 Terry: Bruce?, Bobby?, Shane, Courtney, Austin, Nick, Dan, and Sally. 1 Aras: Cirie 0 Danielle: NONE S13 3 Yul: Jonathon, Candice, and Becky. 4 Ozzy: Nate, Parvati, Sunra? and Adam. very close, coming between Sundra. 7 Yul: Nate, Candice, Sundra, Parvati, Jonathon, Adam, and Ozzy. 0 Becky: NONE 5 Ozzy: Sundra?, Jonathon, Parvati, Adam, and Nate. 2 Becky: Yul and Candice. S14 6 Earl: Edgardo, Boo, Alex, Stacy, Mookie, and Yau. 1 Dreamz: Cassandra 6 Earl: Edgardo, Boo, Alex, Stacy, Mookie, and Yau. 1 Cassie: Dreamz 5 Cassandra: Stacy, Yau-Man, Earl, Edgardo?, and Boo. 2 Dreamz: Mookie, and Alex.
chad6	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#14	[-]
Posts: 3788 (05/23/07 4:08 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Andrew always hated how Jon was such an ass...I doubt he would have voted for him to win...
Francois40	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#15	[-]
Posts: 2880 (05/23/07 11:05 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	As many have mentioned if there was a F3 from the start, we'd usually have seen a DIFFERENT Final 3 in the first place. While it used to be the one of the strongest and most dangerous players would get knocked out at 3rd (Lex, Kathy, Rob C, Rafe), now that person has to be knocked out 4th (Yau-Man). Maybe a different question is, "who would have been voted out at F4 if there'd been a top 3?" (Again, you have to assume that the F4 would be the same, though longterm strategies would probably have changed even this. S1: Probably no different: Sue S2: No different--nobody would want to go against Elisabeth S3: It was flawed anyway, but probably Tom would still go. S4: I doubt there would have been a Purple Rock if it determined who went to the finals. Vecepia would probably have teamed up with P/N to knock out Kathy, hoping that those two would split the vote among those who liked them. S5: Probably the same--Jan and Clay were both Brian's goats. He would have had a harder time keeping his "you and I are the F2" deals straight if it had had to involve a 3rd person, however. S6: Probably Rob would have gone, with Butch carried as a goat. S7: Probably the same F3. S8: Probably the same? S9: Depending on whether people really did like Scout (as I've heard), she might have gone at 4th. I also don't know how secure any Eliza votes (or the perception thereof) there would've been. S10: I think the T/K/I Final 3 was still solid. S11: Well, since they were dumbasses as it was and kept Danni, I guess they'd have done the same. S12: Firestarting tiebreaker would've gone the same way.
GrenadeJumper85	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#16	[-]
Posts: 15301 (05/23/07 12:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Borneo: Rudy would have defo beat Kelly and Rich. Aussie: Tina would have still won. Keith wouldn't have received a single vote. Africa: Lex would have won but barely. Marquesas: Kathy would have won, no question about it. Thailand: Jan would have definitely won, especially sitting next to Clay and Brian. Amazon: I think Rob would have easily won. Pearl Islands: Jon would have won, Lil wouldn't have gotten a single vote, and Sandra would have only gotten Rupert and Christa's vote. All Stars: Amber would have still won. No way were Alicia, Tom, or Shii Ann gonna vote for Jenna. Vanuatu: Hard one to call. It would be a toss up between Scout and Chris. Palau: Ian would have won easily. Caryn, Jenn, Gregg, Coby, and Janu would have all voted for him. Gautemala: Danni would have still won. Stephenie and Rafe were pretty much in the same boat having screwed over Judd, Jamie and Cindy. BJ and Gary were automatic votes for Danni no matter what. Lydia's would be a toss up but would probably go to Rafe. Exile Island: Bleh, Terry would have definitely won. Cirie would have still voted Aras, but everyone else would have voted for Terry. Cook Islands: If it were a Final Two instead, Ozzy would have won because he would have taken Becky or Sundra to Final Two and won easily. Fiji: Yau-Man would have beaten everyone, Earl would beat Dreamz or Cassandra, Dreamz would beat Cass, Cass would lose to everyone.
TheLurkerSpeaks	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#17	[-]
Posts: 1648 (05/23/07 2:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	S1 - Kelly and Susan vote for Rudy at F4 instead of Rich in an effort to put him out of the game. Rich outlasts Kelly in the showdown (no tiebreaker), and Susan still goes. Dirk - Rudy Joel - Rudy Gretchen - Kelly Greg - Rich Jenna - Kelly Gervase - Rudy Colleen - Rudy Sean - Rudy Susan - Rudy Rudy wins 6 - 2 - 1 S2 - Tina's caught as a bit of a hypocrite when she and Colby still vote out popular Elisabeth at F4 instead of "unworthy" Keith. Kimmi - Colby Michael - Colby Jeff - Tina Alicia - Tina Jerri - Tina Nick - Colby Amber - Colby Rodger - Colby Elisabeth - Tina Colby wins 5 - 4 - 0 S3 - Thanks to the prior votes rule and Kim's dislike of Tom, he's still the F4 victim. Silas - Lex Lindsey - Ethan Clarence - Kim Kelly - Ethan Brandon - Lex Frank - Ethan Kim - Kim Teresa - Ethan Tom - Lex Ethan wins 4 - 3 - 2 S4 - Vecepia lets Kathy go at F4 since she doesn't have to worry about an F3 competition. Gabe - Paschal Gina - Paschal Rob - Vecepia John - Vecepia Zoe - Paschal Tammy - Vecepia Robert - Paschal Sean - Vecepia Kathy - Paschal Paschal wins 5 - 4 - 0 S5 - Helen's still odd person out at F4. Stephanie - Jan Robb - Brian Shii Ann - Brian Erin - Clay Ken - Jan Penny - Clay Jake - Brian Ted - Jan Helen - Jan Jan wins 4 - 3 - 2 S6 - Butch is still out at four since Matt can't afford to split votes with him. Jeanne - Matt Shawna - Jenna Roger - Matt Dave - Jenna Deena - Rob Alex - Jenna Christy - Rob Heidi - Jenna Butch - Matt Jenna wins 4 - 3 - 2 S7 - No one wants Jon in the finals so they vote him out at F4. Shawn - Sandra Osten - Darrah Andrew - Darrah Ryan - Darrah Rupert - Sandra Tijuana - Darrah Christa - Sandra Burton - Sandra Jon - Darrah Darrah wins 5 - 4 - 0 S8 - No doubt about Rupert still leaving at F4. Colby - Rob Ethan - Rob Jerri - Amber Lex - Jenna Kathy - Jenna Alicia - Amber Shii Ann - Amber Tom - Jenna Rupert - Rob 3 way tie! Rob and Amber vote for each other so Jenna's vote for Rob gives it to him. S9 - Eliza still leaves at F4. Lisa - Scout John - Scout Rory - Chris Lea - Chris Chad - Chris Leann - Chris Ami - Twila Julie - Chris Eliza - Chris Chris wins 6 - 2 - 1 S10 - Jenn still loses the tiebreaker to Ian. James - Tom Ibrehim - Tom Bobby Jon - Tom Coby - Ian Janu - Ian Stephenie - Tom Gregg - Tom Caryn - Tom Jenn - Tom Tom wins 7 - 2 - 0 S11 - Rafe doesn't take chances this time with no challenge left, and Danni is booted. Brian - Lydia Amy - Stephenie Brandon - Lydia Bobby Jon - Stephenie Jamie - Lydia Gary - Rafe Judd - Lydia Cindy - Lydia Danni - Rafe Lydia wins 5 - 2 - 2 S12 - Danielle still beats Cirie in the tiebreaker. Bobby - Aras Dan - Aras Nick - Terry Austin - Terry S - Terry Bruce - Danielle Courtney - Terry Shane - Terry Cirie - Aras Terry wins 5 - 3 - 1
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#18	[-]
Posts: 6516 (05/23/07 2:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	*Quote:* S11 - Rafe doesn't take chances this time with no challenge left, and Danni is booted. Wrong. You're forgetting that the F4 challenge is now endurance. Danni wins it, gets the others to boot Rafe. And handily defeats Lydia/Stephenie.....
GrenadeJumper85	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#19	[-]
Posts: 15301 (05/23/07 2:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	By the time the Final Four came around in Guatemala there was no way Danni was gonna lose. I think she would have even beat Rafe as well. Rafe and Stephenie just burned too many bridges w/ Cindy, Jamie, and Judd, and Lydia was worthless, so she had no chance of winning at the Final Two. *Quote:* Tom - Jenna No way would Tom have voted for Jenna. He hated her.
TheLurkerSpeaks	Re: What If The Final Three Twist Had Always Been Around?	#20	[-]
Posts: 1648 (05/23/07 3:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SSS, You are making an assumption that they would have changed the F4 immunity, which isn't necessarily valid. Besides, trying to guess at who wins a hypothetical immunity challenge is even more subjective than trying to guess who wins a hypothetical jury vote. GJ, I agree that Tom hated Jenna, but he had just been betrayed by Rob and Amber. In real life, he voted for Amber because he felt more betrayed by Rob, but in this hypothetical, he wasn't betrayed by Jenna at all regardless of his feelings for her.

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