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chaperone |
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Wow so at this point it's an open slate in terms of spoiler info? That's pretty cool!
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craig |
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Without naming names and without using editing analysis, game logic, etc....of the 8 players left, how many are known (75% reliability or so) to be booted?There are 5 names that keep appearing in all spoiler-based speculation about the F3. It appears spoiler knowledsge runs out at F5. |
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Oowatanite |
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There are 5 names that keep appearing in all spoiler-based speculation about the F3That was before Ozzy's surprising boot. Now there is less confidence in that "speculated F5". |
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RobLoblaw |
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Survivor Pheonix posted picture clues that some people say spoil the outcome. People who seem they would know including at least one admin have said that
it's possible. There are guesses about what they mean but no one's from Pheonix confirmed anything. Some of the stuff that's been talked about was
confirmed as being a spoiler by another site. But just as many people think it's a hoax.
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ProbstFan123 |
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Some changes to the spoilers this week:
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gretchensucks |
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ProbstFan123 wrote: They've been speculating (heavily on TV Guide Articles) since the Eliza boot. And they missed the Ozzy boot. Their credibility is shot at this point. |
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ProbstFan123 |
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The bootsheet hasn't been 100% accurate, that's true. I just included the changes for the sake of completeness.
Although it's kind of a moot point now, since edgic has already made their official winner picks. Any changes in spoilers now won't really affect anything in edgic. |
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Jedijake |
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The credibility of just about every person at Edgic is pretty much shot now. Those who claim that they don't go to spoilers and don't want those who do
to post in edgic are some of the most guilty themselves.
With the new events in the past few days suggesting that Parvati may indeed win, you have to wonder why certain "edgic pro's" are giving Parvati a "P" in rating and even eliminating Cirie from contention. Seems a little presumptuous and forced coming from those who feel it's a battle between the two, doesn't it? And yet, only a week ago, several of those folks were the same people who were cursing out some of the Cirie-supporters for reading and posting in spoiler threads. More than 50% of those who post in edgic also post in the spoilers boards. Probably 90% read them. Makes you wonder why some have been calling out Cirie-supporters for being spoiled when more spoilers are pointing toward Parvati. Maybe to save face? Hmmm...just a thought! Stay tuned... |
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craig |
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Jedi, there may be the usual confirmation bias in edgic - once someone has picked Parvati or whoever it is easier to rate her more CP and more positive. There
is also frustration in that many edgic vets believe Cirie fandom tainted Parv's tone rating last week. Cirie has more fans among those who do edgic
ratings, as elsewhere on this board.
It was SkepticA, one of the biggest Parvati haters in edgic, you got into it last week about spoilers And many people post in edgic who don't do ratings or make winner's pics. If Edgic was so influenced by spoilers why do you think people stuck with Eliza for so long? |
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Oowatanite |
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Jedi, you've been posting winner speculation in Edgic since episode one, despite the repeated requests by Chaperone and flf and others that spoiled posters NOT post winner speculation. Then you jumped on the Cirie bandwagon, despite her weak first episode and merge episode. Then you slough off the latest recap where Parvati got ALL of the credit for Ozzy's boot, while Cirie got ZERO credit. In fact, Cirie was treated in the recap as "just one of the girls". This is TERRIBLE for Cirie edgically. And now you're pissed that some pretty meaningless changes in semantics in the SF bootlist means that Parvati wins so most edgicers must be spoiled now.
Parvati has been the favourite since the merge, so this latest SF "guess" is NOT the reason for her Edgic support. All this because you finally
realize that Cirie ain't winning. Take a pill, man ! Jeez ! |
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Jedijake |
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Well, I wouldn't say she isn't necessarily winning. Same could have been said regarding Todd and Amanda last season (although both did not have solid
edgic helping them). Stating a fact that Parvati is winning-that's being spoiled.
But I guess it's better than saying Alexis wins. |
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Oowatanite |
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chapera rocks |
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Regardless, eliminating Cirie is absolutely ridiculous and leads me to think those who are eliminating her are reading spoilers. Parvati getting credit and not
Cirie is no worse for Cirie than Parvati's extremely weak edit from episodes 2-7.
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Jedijake |
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Says the guy who posted all over the place some variations of "congratulations to Cirie for winning Micronesia" and "Cirie obviously wins, you guys who doubt it are morons".Okay, I fully, 100% accept the heat for that. It was WAY too arrogant. Not based on spoilers of course, but rather arrogant edgic. Still, there was a time when Cirie was the only option. Did I actually call everyone a moron on this or the Edgic thread for not having Cirie as #1? Bad call for someone who is now trying to call out those stating Parvati's win as fact-I admit. Horrible use of language and sarcasm-I apologize. Still, neither can or should be eliminated. I think most would agree with that. |
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Oowatanite |
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So who's eliminated Cirie ? Unduli and OTH and who else ? She's still on most winner lists but she is not #1 - Parvati is. So what ?
Stats after Ozzy's boot episode. Edgic Losers (Percentage of possible loser votes) 100.00%Natalie Bolton 100.00%James Clement 93.33%Erik Reichenbach 93.33%Jason Siska 93.33%Amanda Kimmel 73.33%Alexis Jones 20.00%Cirie Fields 6.67%Parvati Shallow Edgic Winners (Percentage of winner votes received) 60.00%Parvati Shallow 33.33%Cirie Fields 6.67%Alexis Jones 0.00%Erik Reichenbach 0.00%Jason Siska 0.00%Natalie Bolton 0.00%Amanda Kimmel 0.00%James Clement |
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Relynn |
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I wanted to make some comments. A part of me does think that perhaps Pavarti wins because of her "I have to win this time." (Although have and
winning is two different things) But I think people are forgetting about the "whole dog that does not bark scenario..." According to the spoilers,
it seems like Miss Natalie is the Fan who makes it the furthest in the game. However, Natalie did not have a Confessional in the first episode did she. There
were others who were much louder than her on the Fans side. ..
The same goes with Amanda. Amanda is the only Favorite who did not have a confessional at all. And in her introduction. She was "all it's such an honor to be here." Now, I realize that people are suggesting that maybe it means we aren't to take her seriously... But here's why, I don't think we can just write of Amanda completely. Amanda was the only Favorite, who was giving a Strategy clip, from the previous season (unless you want to argue Fairplay's grandmother). Now, I realize that was probably Amanda's shining moment but they could have shown other scenes of Amanda... For whatever reason, she was the one Favorite, they decided to remind us, that as a calclulating strategic player. Even if they let Amanda basically fall by the wayside for the rest of the episode. Here's what I'm seeing in the first part (pre merge) It was suggested that Cirie took control of the Favorites. Now, we have Pavarti with control and all her minions. What if the next few episodes, is Amanda takes control of the game in the Final few days..Honestly ever since she caught that shark Amanda has been edited differently. There has been build up with Amanda that there hasn't been with Cirie or Pavarti. Amanda had a huge merge episode. And I think they are definetly setting up a showdown between Pavarti/Amanda. Notice how we see Amanda talking about Pavarti controlling the tribe and having control of all the girls. This is something we the audience sees, but Amanda (besides James but still less so there) is the only one seen talking about Pavarti's double dealings...She talks about Cirie being under Pavarti's spell to... And I think there is a question about why we aren't seeing Cirie showning concern about Pavarti's relationship with Alexis/Natalie. Especially when we saw Pavarti in a confessional say Amanda/Alexis/Natalie everyone else is dead to me." Now, the thing is according to Insider, Cirie doesn't trust Pavarti any more or Natalie...But there is a reason we aren't showing it. They are setting up Amanda to make a move.. And I also felt it was interesting how she was edited so differently from the other women. We saw Amanda lead the strategy discussions no how to full Jason. (Be two steps ahead, get into his head etc) But, we didn't see any of the glee, Ha Ha Ha from her, so none of that negativity was there. |
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ProbstFan123 |
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She was UTR, UTR, UTR, INV in the first 4 episodes.
If she wins, it's another Danni situation, and would prove once and for all that edgic doesn't work with returning players. |
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Relynn |
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ProbstFan123 wrote: The problem with returning players is that people have their biases towards certain players. They have their "favorites" so to speak, and so
unless the edit hits them over the head, they just don't see it... Especially in Amanda's case where she blew the FTC and was clearly not that bonded
with other players in China....So I think people are going a lot by what happened in China.
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04/27/08 12:11 PM.
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ProbstFan123 |
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I don't know. I don't do edgic ratings.
But this is a thread about Edgic and how it relates to spoilers. If Amanda wins (which I highly, highly doubt), then edgic failed this season. That's the bottom line. |
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cindidindi76 |
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Because she made out with Ozzy, and that was it? |
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