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Orangeena	Oz/Wicked symbolism-Cerie the Green Witch that gets crushed in the end	#61	[-]
Posts: 1136 (02/23/08 1:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I left out that I THINK that the Fans win next reward and Alexis"the surprising Mastermind", emerges in that she chooses Ozzy to go to ExileIsland (to weaken him, but to also hook up with him) and they BOTH find the Idol....Or he does as VG has pointed out in that Ozzy picture...and Alexis' the white witch, whispers in the Green Witch's ear---- The Witch of a Different Color, Elphaba, has got to be Cerie and we all know what happens to her in the end of "Wicked" and in "The Wizard of Oz"...she gets crushed by Dorothy's falling house, or here in VG's wonderful world of clues, the House of Cards....The Green Witch is destroyed by a whisper and Glinda the Good Witch(Alexis, Parvati, Amanda, Eliza OR Natalie, any of the young women could fit this white witch description) Wins in the end....
Jedijake		#62	[-]
Posts: 4904 (02/23/08 2:09 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Orange-you DO have a vivid imagination that's for damn sure lol.
Orangeena	JP said Parvati is like Amber	#63	[-]
Posts: 1137 (02/23/08 3:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jeffy did say in his pre-show teleconference(s) that "Parvati is like Amber" SOMEbody will have this direct quote somewhere I'm sure. ___________________________________________________________________In "Wicked" Elphaba, the green witch, is descriminated against because she is a witch of a different color. In this series, the Sorceress/Green Witch/Ursula, the sea witch(see my Cerie as Ursala avatar) sure fits Cerie... Just who the white witch is -is upon to MUCH conjecture... ___________________________________________________________________ I personally happen to have despised Parvati in Cook Islands...But she got one of the first confessionals of the Faves...and now VG has placed the Parvati A TOP the falling house of cards....meaning she doesn't fall... ________________________________________________________--------------- VG just does this I'M GUESSING when people's interest in the season is flagging....See all the "I Hate Showmancers" comments everywhere on this board...But she is saying, I think, "Stick around. The House of Cards that is based on the Lovers(the Showmancers) is about to fall apart " in a very entertaining way(We can only hope)....Esp. if Alexis has the knowledge that Ozzy finds the idol...Just that alone puts her in a special position to be saved from the Fans decimation(IF it happens)....
Planet Somewhere		#64	[-]
Posts: 32 (02/23/08 3:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You guys read waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to far into this shit. For all we know Jeff Probst could be the wicked witch in this stack of cards -_-
WylDawg		#65	[-]
Posts: 14608 (02/23/08 4:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So it's confirmed. Lack of spoilers make people go batshit crazy. You guys should all do yourselves a favor and avoid this place until the season is over.
LKMOSCAR		#66	[-]
Posts: 1383 (02/23/08 4:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Cirie is wicked because she's of a different color???? Where's an Omorosa/Adrienne pic when you need it.
Orangeena	In the long-running hit Bway musical "Wicked"...	#67	[-]
Posts: 1138 (02/23/08 5:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What I'm tried to say is NOT that Cerie is Wicked because she is different color than the others but that in the MUSICAL on Bway, Elpheba, the Green Witch is discriminated against all through the show, because she is GREEN, a different color than all the others. And that is held up as "Wicked".Prejudice is Wicked. The musical and hence VG's Wicked insignia is saying that, too. And this, she's implying, I think, she what this season is all going to be about in the end... ______________________________________________________________________________________ Prejudice is Wicked. Period.
Relynn		#68	[-]
Posts: 122 (02/23/08 6:04 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What if it's Amanda who causes the showmance to die. Probst in interview before the show, commented on Amanda and said that Amanda was someone who knows what makes a good alliance and also knows when to turn on that alliance. What if Amanda orchestrates the change, this could have been forshadowed in the clip they showed of Amanda taking down James. Of all the Amanda clips they showed that one. This being said they also showed Ozzy and Amanda discussing first episode how loyal Ozzy was, whereas we just saw Pavarti and James flirting. Plus Probst has also mentioned Amanda/Ozzy's alliances lasting a long time. Still I do think it starts to say Aman (Unless it just means A Man?
Oowatanite		#69	[-]
Posts: 4793 (02/23/08 6:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Planet Somewhere wrote: You guys read waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to far into this shit. For all we know Jeff Probst could be the wicked witch in this stack of cards -_- X So this picture tells us that the lovers alliance will crumble eventually. Which we already knew about three weeks ago. Whoopee !!!!!!! If we begin to get infested with "picture spoilers" week after week, I hope to God that an accurate bootlist gets posted to save us from this pointless conjecture about a "house of cards".
AmightyRo		#70	[-]
Posts: 52 (02/23/08 6:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: What if it's Amanda who causes the showmance to die. Probst in interview before the show, commented on Amanda and said that Amanda was someone who knows what makes a good alliance and also knows when to turn on that alliance. What if Amanda orchestrates the change, this could have been forshadowed in the clip they showed of Amanda taking down James. Of all the Amanda clips they showed that one. This being said they also showed Ozzy and Amanda discussing first episode how loyal Ozzy was, whereas we just saw Pavarti and James flirting. Plus Probst has also mentioned Amanda/Ozzy's alliances lasting a long time. Still I do think it starts to say Aman (Unless it just means A Man? Unless I missed something, I thought Probst indicated that the showmanceS effect the game until the very end. I assume that means they both (James/Parvati, Ozzy/Amanda) last a long time. And I do think we're all reading too much into the falling cards.
shadowdiana		#71	[-]
Posts: 3453 (02/23/08 6:15 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Whatever. It is just a TV show. Let people have their fun!
Katy Carney		#72	[-]
Posts: 430 (02/23/08 6:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think that the white witch definitely represents Parvati. In the play the white witch, Galinda, changes her name to Glinda because it is consistently mispronounced by her teacher ("Poverty"-Jeff Probst). She is also a conceited, vain character at the beginning of the play and evolves throughout the story to have more depth, thanks to Elphaba (the black witch). When I think shallow girl I think Parvati more than Amanda or Alexis.
LKMOSCAR		#73	[-]
Posts: 1384 (02/23/08 6:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So, we are assuming that Cirie and Parvati are Elpheba and Glinda? Who is the audience supposed to like more?
speedyforme		#74	[-]
Posts: 6873 (02/23/08 7:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Elpheba
LKMOSCAR		#75	[-]
Posts: 1386 (02/23/08 7:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So, then, that means that Cirie outlasts Parvati? Correct? haha, this is so stupid.
sunflower101		#76	[-]
Posts: 567 (02/23/08 7:15 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MMan9000 wrote: Maybe the picture of Sally and Thing 1 and Thing 2 could represent Cirie controlling Parvarti and Amanda. As well, the picture of Alexis on the bottom could mean that she comes in fourth to Cirie, Parvati, and Amanda. We don't know who the final 3 is yet, but it is possible for both Amanda/Alexis to be there. Cire/Parvati might think Amanda could beat both of them on the jury or Alexis could win the final 4 immunity challenge.There was also a rumor that Amanda got injured and removed from the game. There could be other reasons that Amanda is voted out over Alexis. Of course it coudl be as simple as Cire/Parvati/Amanda are the final 3.
Jedijake		#77	[-]
Posts: 4906 (02/23/08 7:34 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	At best this picture describes the final 4: Amanda, Cirie, Parvati, Alexis (I don't know where people are getting the Alexis connections from). This crap is like LOST-nobody will ever have a freakin' clue what it means until the whole thing is over.
sunflower101		#78	[-]
Posts: 568 (02/23/08 7:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Orangeena wrote: This is marvelous, brainy fun! I think this wonderful clue pertains to the next few episodes...The house of cards(lovers Tarot card on top) is falling apart...means "The House of Cards" or how the Showmancers plan to play the game falls apart... And a switch is coming too... The Defying Gravity song from Wicked, the Bway musical hit, would mean that SOMEONE "defies gravity" or defies the falling house of cards...And isn't the Parvati card on the part of the image that is still standing? Alexis is on the bottom (or at the bottom) of it all falling apart...but she's discarded and the Parvati card is part of the house that remains solid... Alexis' hinted (in the webclues) as emerging as a new mastermind, in that she may be the one who chooses Ozzy to go to exile island and she goes, too. Hooking up with Ozzy and the idol and causing the House of Cards to crumble... Oz of course is the subject of "Wicked" so the whisper would revolve around the Oz-Man. Alexis(or Parvati) whispers to the Green Witch(Cerie) which causes Cerie to tell Amanda about Ozzy & Alexis and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down, as Amanda, which the pile spells out(sorta. It also spells "A MAN"=Ozzy or Oz) causes the Showmancers house of cards to crumble... And Alexis is at the bottom of it...but she's discarded.... Makes sense to me... Amanda/Ozzy apparently are dating now that the show is over, or so it has been said. So I don't see him hooking up with Alexis at least in a Romantic way.
Jacare15		#79	[-]
Posts: 880 (02/23/08 7:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So, then, that means that Cirie outlasts Parvati? Correct? Elphaba = The Wicked Witch of the West Glinda = The Good Witch of the North The Wicked Witch of the West melts, but only for being completely misunderstood. Actually, in the play, she fakes her death of melting and reunited with Fiyero (her lover), secretly. In the book, Fiyero is kind of the cause of Elphaba's breakdown in that she has his child but he is dead. She goes virtually mad and tries to make people think she is wicked, whereas in the musical, she is not so much. All in all, Glinda outlats Elphaba.
AnomyBC		#80	[-]
Posts: 4229 (02/23/08 7:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why is everyone still saying that the top card is the "Lovers Card"? Didn't you guys see my post about that? I've been able to find no evidence of any Lovers Card that looks like that. Has anyone else found one that DOES look like that? If so, please post it.

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