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Vegazguy |
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this brings back memories. wow.
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usuallylurk |
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The guy who as diagnsed with ADHD was assigned to do cleanup. The navy considers him damaged goods. With four or five days in Hong Kong, what did they do? They
got drunk. I thought one of the goals in joining the navy was to see the world.
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Quiche Lorraine |
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I like it so far. Here's a list of the colors associated with carrier flight ops. It helps to sort things out as to who's who:
white - medical/admin red - ordnance handling and fire fighting green - mechanics and flight deck ops (launch/recovery) yellow - deck safety brown - plane captains (chief mechanics) purple - fuel handlers blue- aircraft movers |
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BillNyeSurvivorGuy |
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Well I didn't wait a week, I watched this last night. :)
I kind of liked it. It was pretty interesting, and the Navy seems to have given the folks a lot of leeway in how deep they can go about the procedures and daily lives of crewmen and women. That racist guy, well, if he thinks being racist is going to get him off the boat then I feel like he's got another thing coming. Looking at his body on shore leave, that guy has a lot of work to do if he is going to be a Marine anyway. If he is so bored, maybe he should take advantage of the exercise room! This man has ample opportunities to change and grow his life, and he is pissing them away, if he listens to the advice people are giving him and tries to overcome his fallacies, he would realize he could improve so much and get along with everyone on ship. Can't wait for Celebrity Carrier on PBS next year! Clean those Head's, Screech! Captain Gary Coleman requests all celebrities meet him in his office at 0800. |
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usuallylurk |
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The label on one of the bags of powdered food was lebeled, I think, "frozen egg produce."
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Pud Knocker |
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The scary part of this 10 hour production isn't the fact that the purpose of the planes is to blow up and kill people. The scary part, as shown in almost
the whole eighth hour, is the extent to which Christianity is supprted and promoted by the United States government, using taxpayers money and property, and
directing this religious position towards captive audiences on a ship with five thousand Americans. Wow. Whatever happened to the concept of a seperation
between church and state? It seems to frame this whole "war on terror" as a battle between the Christian kooks and their one true God in the U.S.,
versus the Muslim kooks and their one true Allah in the Middle East. I don't want to pay for it.
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AMartel |
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Pud,
The purpose of the planes is to provide a show of force and protect the people on the ground, as needed. Did you not hear the endless observations about how none of them actually dropped any bombs and that this was a good thing, indicating that the show of force was successful? D'oh! Secondly, there are two parts to the religion clause in the First Amendment to the Constitution. The second part is that the government "shall make no law . . . prohibiting the free exercise of religion." It would not be constitutional for the Navy to prohibit people from practicing their particular religion. A lot of the people on the show were rather enthusiastic Christians, freely exercising their Christianity, as well as other religious types also freely exercising their First Amendment rights as well, appropriately with no government interference. No one was being "held captive" or forced to participate in the religious activities. (Though there was one reference to a guy who reportedly got worked up about the announcements for religious services.) Otherwise, the folks who said they were not religious had no issue with other people practicing their religions. They weren't scared or antagonized about it, and you shouldn't be either. Third, the Muslim god and Christian god is the same god, albeit Christianity and Islam have different traditions of worship. I don't know that the distinctions between Christian and Islamic worship are the main underlying dispute in Iraq (although religious bigotry is certainly exploited on the Islamic side). Some young kid on last night's show said it best, that we're bringing western ideas to the middle east but those ideas have more to do with McDonald's than with Christianity (paraphrasing). |
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squashthebeef |
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You view the world through idiot tinted glasses, don't you.
Damn good show. It's the clusterfucking I miss the most. edit, I was talking to that pud thingy. You probably figured that out. |
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Pud Knocker |
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AMartel,
I didn't state that the OTHER use of the planes is to only THREATEN to blow up or kill people, because that wasn't my point. I was just saying that what the average person would think is the scariest part of an aircraft carrier, the planes and what they can physically or psychologically do, in my opinion is NOT the scariest part. I said nothing about preventing people from having religious services on the ship. When I said that "Christianity is supported and promoted by the United States government", I was referring to the religious messages being broadcast using the ship's speaker system, into every compartment on the ship. When I said "captive audiences", I meant that the people on board can hardly get away from being within earshot of the speakers. You say "Third, the Muslim god and Christian god is the same god". Oh really? Ask a Muslim if they agree with that. Do that in Iraq, and see if he kills you for saying that. |
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squashthebeef |
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Y'know, it would make it much more difficult to misinterpret what you say if you'd shut the fuck up.
Would you be happy if they announced " 'YOU KNOW WHAT' services starting in 10 minutes. 'nudge nudge'"? |
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Piranhahaha |
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I'm now hopelessly behind, having seen as of this post only the first four hours.
The racist Okie: holy crap, is this the stupidest human being ever caught on camera? Unbelievable. Even worse: WTF with the sailor of the month guy who boinked the subordinate chick, possibly raping her? And he was a sex assault advocate?! Good gracious. I'll hand it to the editors so far: yup, they are indeed taking a true RTV look at this boat. What's sickening is that these are real life people, not RTV mediawhores, the drunks in the matching red suits notwithstanding (btw, where'd they go? Awesome idea!). I wonder how much of this stuff happened not because it would've happened, but happened because these ordinary sailors suddenly had a camera pointed at them. This is easily the strangest series I've ever seen broadcast. |
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squashthebeef |
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Hours 9 and 10 needed to be combined. The salsa dancing marine is probably one of the scariest people ever.
but how can you not cry like a pussy at this shit?
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shiza h minelli |
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I can't say I loved the series... but it was definitely enjoyable and worth watching...
Salsa dancers arm acne really creeped me out... mainly because they seemed to keep doing close-ups of it... |
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BillNyeSurvivorGuy |
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Overall I think it was worth watching. Almost made me join the Navy but I don't think I could handle being in that tiny space for so long with people I
hated.
Also if you are going to be the pacifist/humanist/atheist and try to espouse the constitution, maybe NOT using a username as immature as Pud Knocker would make people have a better opinion of your views, and Atheists in general? Just a thought. |
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squashthebeef |
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The stupidity of the comments makes most overlook the stupidity of the name.
I'll bet that Ordinance kid is swimming in white trash pussy today after being all sensitive and emotional. That foozeball table is gonna' see some ACTION! |
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usuallylurk |
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The series was filmed three years ago. I was hoping for an update. I wonder how the guy who got Tonya, (was that her name?), pregnant, is doing. When the guy
got home, there was an older man, who was smiling, standing there. I assume the man was his father, but the sailor ignored him.
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squashthebeef |
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It was her father. Ordie guy said "Hi, sir" and Dad told him he'd lost weight running around the flight deck.
This is what you miss on PBS, they don't stop when you pee. |
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DanteAmore |
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usuallylurk wrote:
Chris
Altice
Rank: AOAN
Air Wing: VFA-14 Chris Altice served for three-and-a-half years in the Navy as an E-3/aviation ordnanceman, which was his position during the deployment featured in CARRIER. He separated from the Navy in September 2006 and is currently working and planning to attend college full-time. He was born in West Virginia and resides in Virginia, where he grew up. Meet the rest of the crew here: http://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/the_crew.htm |
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usuallylurk |
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Thank you for the information.
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Piranhahaha |
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I'm now up through the 8th hour and am yet to see arm acne on the salsa dancing Marine. Regardless, that guy is quite the study in contradictions. I
loved how he put the officer in his place with the water bottle cap analogy, although I'm not certain what it had to do with the leaky jet.
Also loved the cook chatting poolside with the officer aviator. It's like two worlds colliding. Which goes back to my initial concern about this series -- how much of this would've happened if the cameras weren't there? Too bad the Navy's dumbed down the crossing the equator shennaningans. I've heard those used to be legendary. The night landing sequence: holy crap. Absolutely riveting. But also weird with all the people watching on video like it was a baseball game. Who the hell was that redhead, anyhow? ETA: the Aussie chick at the end of hour 8 that the biblethumper apparently boinked: a hooker, right? Prostitution's legal in Australia. Anybody know what the story is with the two nighttime crashes? I know they were archival footage, but wow. That F-14 in particular folding up on the deck looked awful, although I thought I saw at least one ejection seat shoot up and out.
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