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I am confused..Why all the deception w/ Erik??

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54321blastoff	I am confused..Why all the deception w/ Erik??	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3954 (05/09/08 07:17 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Constant change is here to stay. Remove this ad I get that Natalie was going to be out so she needed to play Erik but it wasn't even her idea. Why would Parv, Amanda and Cerie do all that scheming just to save Natalie when they were all safe anyway??! I don't get it. I would think that Parv/Cerie would want Erik to stay to the F4 so that at the F4 immunity challege they can half ass it and hope Erik beats out Amanda so they can vote off Amanda but act like their backs are up against the wall so Amanda doesn't feel betrayed. Erik was no jury threat anyway...Amanda IS. Makes no sense. Now...in order to get rid of Amanda, Cerie/Parv have to screw her over and in that case, Nat might end up getting her vote.
token lunatic		#1	[-]
Posts: 21349 (05/09/08 07:49 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	female final four
sammyhain2364		#2	[-]
Posts: 1655 (05/09/08 08:06 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	What I don't get is why Natalie doesn't realize that she's number four on the totem poll? What she should have done is swallow her pride and anger towards Erik and stick with him. All they had to do then was sway Cirie towards their side (as she's the obvious number three) and vote off either Parv or Amanda. It would be a lot easier to sway Cirie towards your side when it's a 3-2 split instead of Nat trying to sway Cirie when it's a 3-1 and forcing a tie. Now Natalie pretty much has to win immunity or else it's hello last member of the jury.
ChristopherMars		#3	[-]
Posts: 9 (05/09/08 08:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't know if they could sway Cirie or not, but I have to think that neither she or Parvati believe they will have more sympathy with the jury than Amanda. They wanted Erik out because he was winning the challenges. Natalie may believe that with Erik out of the way, she stands a better shot at winning immunity to take her to the F3.
Francois40		#4	[-]
Posts: 2196 (05/09/08 08:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I get that Natalie was going to be out so she needed to play Erik but it wasn't even her idea. Why would Parv, Amanda and Cerie do all that scheming just to save Natalie when they were all safe anyway??! I don't get it. "Girl Power", mostly, but also because Erik ahd that pesky habit of winning Immunities, PLUS his personality was probably such that he'd take a few jury votes. And, I think A/P/C wanted an All-Fave F3 because a Fan that makes the finals might pull in the "Fan vote" from Jason and Alexis. OTOH, all the talk of Amanda's threat last week could have made it very easy for E/N/C to boot Amanda this week; surely that had to be discussed somewhere along the line, but we had the unusual situation of the most dopeheaded move in Survivor histroy, and all of the post-IC footage was about that; we didn't see one bit of strategizing about a "Plan B". I wish erik had asked them what they would do if he DIDN'T turn over the necklace, because Cirie surely wasn't going to say in front of Nat "We'll boot Natalie"--it would have been Amanda or Parv anyway, so what did he think he had to gain, except "being liked by my Survivor idols" eyeroll
riskysurv		#5	[-]
Posts: 1141 (05/09/08 08:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because Erik is a threat in final four immunity.... If he wins, that means either Amanda, Parv and Cirie will be going home and why take the risk?
finishthemoff		#6	[-]
Posts: 8403 (05/09/08 08:47 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Natalie made the best decision for herself, but she is a newbie in Ami's body
Glebe220		#7	[-]
Posts: 2408 (05/09/08 09:04 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Also, despite how much Cirie flips, she does show some loyalty to her closest allies. She planned on going to the F2 with Aras in Panama despite Shane and Danielle probably being easier opponents. Aras was her closest ally and she stuck by him if no one else. Maybe she simply doesn't want to betray Amanda (and/or Parvati). Amanda working her before the last TC probably helped a bit too.
StarRider		#8	[-]
Posts: 17344 (05/09/08 09:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because Amanda and Parv know that they are sticking together to the end. They know that Cirie is with them until F3. All three will now vote Nat out knowing that Cirie can't win the F3 challenge and then they vote her out. So from Amanda and Parvs perspective, getting rid of challenge threat Eric was paramount to their plans. Eric's stupidity has sealed Amanada or Pov winning. Or, if it's a F3, Cirie will go next and Nat will stay.
gretchensucks		#9	[-]
Posts: 488 (05/09/08 09:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because they don't want a challenge hog like Erik in the F4...Duh.
gatorknight		#10	[-]
Posts: 37 (05/09/08 09:10 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Constant change is here to stay. Remove this ad But Cirie did betray Amanda in the last episide, didn't she? Why does Amanda trust Cirie again? What to make Amanda think that she won't be voted out in the final 4?
AllMenAreIslands		#11	[-]
Posts: 23691 (05/09/08 09:22 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Francois40 wrote: we didn't see one bit of strategizing about a "Plan B". I wish erik had asked them what they would do if he DIDN'T turn over the necklace, because Cirie surely wasn't going to say in front of Nat "We'll boot Natalie"--it would have been Amanda or Parv anyway, so what did he think he had to gain, except "being liked by my Survivor idols" eyeroll Francois, there probably was a fair amount of Plan B, and all we needed to see was Erik asking if the target could be Parvati instead of Amanda. The girls agree, so he feels like he's "making a move" and "controlling the game" because of it.
finishthemoff		#12	[-]
Posts: 8407 (05/09/08 10:12 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No. Nat will be a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE goat right now..... she is now basically more hated than truckwaffle.. if that is possible. Cirie is the biggest threat to win it all now. Watch.
pinoyako		#13	[-]
Posts: 375 (05/09/08 10:17 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Cirie is the biggest threat and yet Parvati and Amanda doesn't realized that.
pinoyako		#14	[-]
Posts: 376 (05/09/08 10:18 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	gatorknight wrote: But Cirie did betray Amanda in the last episide, didn't she? Why does Amanda trust Cirie again? What to make Amanda think that she won't be voted out in the final 4? Dumbass. It's all in the plan, Cirie knows the plan about Alexis.
The Purple Parrot		#15	[-]
Posts: 5550 (05/09/08 10:51 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Erik had to go. He just had to. Natalie may seem like the obvious choice to be the next one out... But I think Cirie is smarter than that. If Cirie goes to the final 3 with Amanda, Cirie loses. If Cirie gets Amanda out next, she wins. It's simple as that.
spnintendo		#16	[-]
Posts: 2813 (05/09/08 10:54 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Because these ladies had something to prove to the dumb men of the world.
PrinceOfSucks		#17	[-]
Posts: 322 (05/09/08 11:13 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	spnintendo wrote: Because these ladies had something to prove to the dumb men of the world. Well the last 4 dumb men left on their tribe anyway. I guess Cockyness leeds to dumb in some form or antoher.
PrinceOfSucks		#18	[-]
Posts: 323 (05/09/08 11:15 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	token lunatic wrote: female final four I wonder if their menstral cycles have synched up yet.
kmae12		#19	[-]
Posts: 5 (05/09/08 11:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	54321blastoff wrote: I get that Natalie was going to be out so she needed to play Erik but it wasn't even her idea. Why would Parv, Amanda and Cerie do all that scheming just to save Natalie when they were all safe anyway??! I don't get it. I would think that Parv/Cerie would want Erik to stay to the F4 so that at the F4 immunity challege they can half ass it and hope Erik beats out Amanda so they can vote off Amanda but act like their backs are up against the wall so Amanda doesn't feel betrayed. Erik was no jury threat anyway...Amanda IS. Makes no sense. Now...in order to get rid of Amanda, Cerie/Parv have to screw her over and in that case, Nat might end up getting her vote. Because with Erik winning the last 3 IC he was more in control of the game then Pav, Cerie and Amanda...Had Nat gone home last night and Erik won immunity next time he it would have forced Amanda, Parv and Cierie to vote one of themselves off...they were assuring themselves F3.
54321blastoff		#20	[-]
Posts: 3957 (05/09/08 12:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Constant change is here to stay. Remove this ad ^ As much as Parv and Cerie go on and on about Amanda in the F3 w/ them they know that they can not beat her in the end. I am assuming it's a F3 like it has been the last couple seasons rather than a F2 so why wouldn't they want Erik to stay for F4 and win immunity? Then Parv/Cerie could oust Amanda w/o Amanda feeling like she's being backstabbed. If Cerie makes a move this week and tries to get rid of Amanda..it will look bad for Cerie w/ the jury.

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I am confused..Why all the deception w/ Erik??

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