Where did anti winner sentiment come from? in Lions, Tigers, Survivors

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Where did anti winner sentiment come from?

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Dr Will Hatch two point oh	Where did anti winner sentiment come from?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3938 (06/23/08 05:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I CAN REMOVE is 100 times more important than IQ. Remove this ad I can understand people using others emotional prejudges for their benifit,but where did this prejudge come from? Jealousy?
craig		#1	[-]
Posts: 13348 (06/23/08 05:52 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I assume you're referring to JLew's ASS strategy. Or Lex's attitude to Ethan.
Quiddity		#2	[-]
Posts: 2807 (06/23/08 05:55 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Wouldn't you love to be able to say you beat out someone like Richard Hatch or Tina Wesson, some of the best known winners in the history of the game? Players slobbered all over getting the opportunity to do that, so they could make themselves look better. Yeah, you're a piece of shit player like Jenna Lewis or Shii Ann, but wow, you beat out Richard, Tina, Ethan and Jenna! OMG! Maybe you're good after all! Even when it wasn't in their best interest they were obsessed with that cough most of Mogo Mogo cough
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#3	[-]
Posts: 3940 (06/23/08 05:55 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah, but even before ASS(right when the idea became a legitimate idea),people around here and other Survivor sights said how they didn't want winners on, because they would be ejected right away.I don't see the train of thought in a blanket rejection of prior winners by some people like JLew.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#4	[-]
Posts: 3941 (06/23/08 05:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Quiddity wrote: Wouldn't you love to be able to say you beat out someone like Richard Hatch or Tina Wesson, some of the best known winners in the history of the game? Players slobbered all over getting the opportunity to do that, so they could make themselves look better. Yeah, you're a piece of shit player like Jenna Lewis or Shii Ann, but wow, you beat out Richard, Tina, Ethan and Jenna! OMG! Maybe you're good after all! Even when it wasn't in their best interest they were obsessed with that cough most of Mogo Mogo cough Oh,totally. But Jenna said she would never vote for a winner,EVEN IF THEY WERE DESRVING. The $1,000,000 argument means little,since a million hasn't been alot of money for quite awhile now.
JaMalle		#5	[-]
Posts: 3971 (06/23/08 05:58 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Well, because winners have the stigma of being better players than the average player, which I don't think is the case at all. If you have someone who is deemed more threatening because of a title, then you're going to go after them.
JaMalle		#6	[-]
Posts: 3972 (06/23/08 05:59 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Oh,totally. But Jenna said she would never vote for a winner,EVEN IF THEY WERE DESRVING. The $1,000,000 argument means little,since a million hasn't been alot of money for quite awhile now. That's just Jenna. And let me tell you, there's no doubt in my mind that if a winner made it to the Finals to face the jury, they would win hands down.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#7	[-]
Posts: 3942 (06/23/08 06:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JaMalle wrote: Well, because winners have the stigma of being better players than the average player, which I don't think is the case at all. If you have someone who is deemed more threatening because of a title, then you're going to go after them. Yeah,people will use any excuse to scapegoat you coughstranded:all starscough. But some people still insist on Survivor being some kind of charity,it annoys me
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#8	[-]
Posts: 3943 (06/23/08 06:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I haven't heard of that,but with Ruperts warped psycheit might be true
Survivor Boy		#9	[-]
Posts: 5690 (06/23/08 06:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jenna Lewis is a fucking asshole.
Quiddity		#10	[-]
Posts: 2809 (06/23/08 08:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I CAN REMOVE is 100 times more important than IQ. Remove this ad Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Quiddity wrote: Wouldn't you love to be able to say you beat out someone like Richard Hatch or Tina Wesson, some of the best known winners in the history of the game? Players slobbered all over getting the opportunity to do that, so they could make themselves look better. Yeah, you're a piece of shit player like Jenna Lewis or Shii Ann, but wow, you beat out Richard, Tina, Ethan and Jenna! OMG! Maybe you're good after all! Even when it wasn't in their best interest they were obsessed with that cough most of Mogo Mogo cough Oh,totally. But Jenna said she would never vote for a winner,EVEN IF THEY WERE DESRVING. The $1,000,000 argument means little,since a million hasn't been alot of money for quite awhile now. I'm sure its a lot of money to Jenna! :P Oh I'm sorry, she's such a talented individual, I'm sure she'll be able to make that money easily through hard work. Selling self-made sex tapes for example.
craig		#11	[-]
Posts: 13350 (06/23/08 09:11 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The Lex and Ethan case is ever sadder. They were allies in Africa, friends post-show, and Ethan never betrayed Lex. Yet Lex couldn't get over the fact that Kim J picked his "assistant coach" over him. Lex\Kathy\Tom were the pregame alliance of "deserving almost winners."
dontkilloffcharlie		#12	[-]
Posts: 296 (06/24/08 09:43 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Quiddity wrote: Wouldn't you love to be able to say you beat out someone like Richard Hatch or Tina Wesson, some of the best known winners in the history of the game? Players slobbered all over getting the opportunity to do that, so they could make themselves look better. Yeah, you're a piece of shit player like Jenna Lewis or Shii Ann, but wow, you beat out Richard, Tina, Ethan and Jenna! OMG! Maybe you're good after all! Even when it wasn't in their best interest they were obsessed with that cough most of Mogo Mogo cough Oh,totally. But Jenna said she would never vote for a winner,EVEN IF THEY WERE DESRVING. The $1,000,000 argument means little,since a million hasn't been alot of money for quite awhile now. well, from my point of view a million dollars IS a lot of money. thats a life changing amount of money. and i dont care if they were previous winners or just rich (like carl in africa) i would want anyone rich out because its a strategy that makes sense to most people and you could easily get support to vote the rich ones off
craig		#13	[-]
Posts: 13352 (06/24/08 10:25 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In theory, people would rather give a million dollars to a needy perason over a rich one. But in practice, that is usually outweighed by other factors. Twila and Dreamz were destroyed by the jury. Denise was denied a chance to face the jury. On Big Brother, Dr.Will and millionaire Boogie both won, while Cowboy lost BB5 and the single mom in BB9 was evicted right before jury. In ASS, JLew and Jerri had lots of reaons to want Tina out besides the fact she won a million dollars. Tima betrayed Jerr\Amber in S2 and took Colby away from them. But in ASS, JLew\Jerri won the fight for Rupert's loyalty. Players naturally want to beat the players who best them the first time. Hatch was booted first when the Borneo cast appeared on The Weakest Link. BB James sought revenge on Janelle who outlasted him and got all the glory. Parvati would not allow Ozzy to beat her a second time. Last Edited By: craig 06/24/08 10:28 AM. Edited 1 times.
van slyker		#14	[-]
Posts: 1934 (06/24/08 11:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	colorofcoils wrote: Is it true the reason why Rupert was so hostile towards Ethan on All-Stars was because Ethan took JFP's spot and Rupert wanted to take "revenge" on JFP by getting him voted out on All-Stars? I remember hearing (originally from Tina?) that Rupert replaced Mike Skupin. So it sounds to me like the Pearl Islands cast was not included in ASS due to being back2back, until they discovered what a ratings bomb rupert was so they pushed people aside to get him on. I think JFP would have taken Rob M's place anyway, which would have been horrible. Remember also tho that everyone said Shii Ann replaced Kelly G last minute to rep Thailand but then someone said that was false. who knows. But I never understood why Rupert didn't team with Ethan and Tina either, so there must have been something there. Oh wait Rupert's a dumb player.. nevermind.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#15	[-]
Posts: 3944 (06/24/08 12:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	craig wrote: In theory, people would rather give a million dollars to a needy perason over a rich one. But in practice, that is usually outweighed by other factors. Twila and Dreamz were destroyed by the jury. Denise was denied a chance to face the jury. On Big Brother, Dr.Will and millionaire Boogie both won, while Cowboy lost BB5 and the single mom in BB9 was evicted right before jury. In ASS, JLew and Jerri had lots of reaons to want Tina out besides the fact she won a million dollars. Tima betrayed Jerr\Amber in S2 and took Colby away from them. But in ASS, JLew\Jerri won the fight for Rupert's loyalty. Players naturally want to beat the players who best them the first time. Hatch was booted first when the Borneo cast appeared on The Weakest Link. BB James sought revenge on Janelle who outlasted him and got all the glory. Parvati would not allow Ozzy to beat her a second time. Perfectly understandable,but that doesn't explain why some people would throw away their games just to vote out a previous winner,like Jerri for instance
JaMalle		#16	[-]
Posts: 3984 (06/24/08 12:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	First off, JErri didn't throw her game away, it was an awesome move. They were never going to be allies and Tina was just an obstacle. Jerri would have been guaranteed F5 had she made the merge and Lex not been dumb. Yeah,people will use any excuse to scapegoat you coughstranded:all starscough. But some people still insist on Survivor being some kind of charity,it annoys me *GIGANTIC* eye roll here.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#17	[-]
Posts: 3945 (06/24/08 01:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah,I guess you're right.Voting off winners provides you with extra security,but some feel its some sort of moral obligation,like its WRONG for winners to participate,which puzzles me.Kathy is supposed to be relativly well off, maybe she shouldn't compete by that logic What were you rolling your eyes at Jamalle? The Stranded comment or the charity comment?
Paris Hilton		#18	[-]
Posts: 3570 (06/24/08 03:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I would think aligning with a winner would be smart because they would always be a target before you.
Quiddity		#19	[-]
Posts: 2812 (06/24/08 05:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	First off, JErri didn't throw her game away, it was an awesome move. They were never going to be allies and Tina was just an obstacle. Jerri would have been guaranteed F5 had she made the merge and Lex not been dumb. Forget final 5, Jerri almost certainly would have been guaranteed F2, being such a huge goat. Of course she'd never win, but you'd have to be a moron of epic proportions to try and vote out people like Kathy and even Shii Ann over her. ...oh wait, we're talking about the Twatwaffle here. Maybe that wouldn't have happened after all.
cardswin5		#20	[-]
Posts: 576 (06/24/08 10:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I CAN REMOVE is 100 times more important than IQ. Remove this ad I didn't mind All-stars Jerri and would have loved to see all the Mogo Mogos (except Lex) make it to the end over shit like Boston Rob and fucking AMBER.

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