Chain gangs until their mortgage is paid off.
| Started By | Comment | ||
|---|---|---|---|
worstdog |
|||
|
Debtors prison.
Chain gangs until their mortgage is paid off. |
|||
merkyl |
|||
|
Hey good idea, we'll need people to work the fields when we Mexipultâ„¢ the illegals.
|
|||
Dr Weems |
|||
Driving less will only exacerbate the problem. It's the worst possible solution. How so, Dr. Milton "TC" Freedman? Your economic theories intrigue me. |
|||
PassionatePiscesMan |
|||
|
Tax, tax, tax the responsible people.
|
|||
Dr Weems |
|||
|
Since gas has gone through the roof, they found people in Utah are driving less and buying less gas (something like 8% less).
Then they measured that air quality had increased substantially (it can get nasty when we have "heat inversions")........ ....so, there's other benefits to high gas prices most people don't consider. OKAY TC! YOU KNOW NOTHING! |
|||
TequilaVaquero |
|||
|
I blame the green movement. I mean who is so against SUVs? Green bastards, that's who. So they make gas expensive as shit. Then we all have to buy hybrids.
But yeah, the mortgage thing is bullshit. They should put a lien on the house so when these bastards go to sell they have to pay back what they had graced to them. |
|||
TC |
|||
|
Wow weems. You really should just stick to looking pretty and making art.
|
|||
Dr Weems |
|||
|
REALLY? So you think I'm pretty? Well....I think I have nice eyes but I don't get told I'm "pretty" as much as I used to.
What do you think is my prettiest feature? Ahh heck...you don't have to tell me your economic theories if you don't want to. Just so you think I'm pretty....that's good enough. :c ) |
|||
Hamdingers |
|||
|
ATTENTION LIBERAL DINGBATS!
See what TC did there? Hard money says that'll work on Merkyl in the political thread. |
|||
B DeBrun |
|||
merkyl wrote: Premature evacuation? |
|||
TC |
|||
Hamdingers wrote: did you exacerbate your money? |
|||
JVL58 |
|||
|
I would like to see some help out there for the first time homebuyer and that's it.
Over the last few years I watched people buy homes it was obvious they could not afford. They got 100% financing, and new first and second loan to avoid paying PMI/MIP, payments were interest only for 5 years and now those loans are going to a full piti payment that they will struggle to make, if at all. The "American Dream" has turned into a nightmare. I wonder just who the hell comes up with these loan programs that are sure to crash and burn. The lenders need to be held responsible for their irresponsible lending practices. This has drastically affected the industry in which I work and too many honest people are paying dearly for the sins of those bastards. The real estate market is flooded with foreclosures and short sales, many of these houses are trashed from pissed off homeowners and require quite a bit of work to make them habitable again. Unfortunately, the average Joe does not really understand the mortgage process and the only thing they care about is what the monthly payment is for now, they don't see the future increases. PEOPLE, read shit before you sign it! |
|||
youfist |
|||
JVL58 wrote: Ameridream is offering up to $8,000 grants for first time buyers...and I agree...too many 'sexy' hybrid loans were out there that basically made people 'house poor' on non PITI payments (primiciple, Interest, Taxes and Insurance included in the payment) I/O loans or those damned 'neg-am' loans- in deteriorating markets-proved really costly to those clients who treated their homes like an ATM and/or only paid interest on the loan...or in the case of NEG AM's paid LESS than the interest and had their homes go to 115% LTV (upsidedown) Bush did help with the 'stimulus' package as he made FHA county loan limits increase to still offer great fixed rates to people at 97% loan to value. |
|||
ginaf20697 |
|||
JVL58 wrote:What does being a first time homebuyer have to do with it? I don't care how many homes you've owned, I don't want to be the one who ends up paying because you're too stupid to know what you can afford. |
|||
TC |
|||
|
And the funny thing about that is first time home owner can mean a whole bunch of things.
How about help for a first time home owner with GOOD CREDIT. You see, mortgage companies can't DISCRIMINATE. So they have given loans to people with shitty credit in some cases because of that. It's not all preditory. The government stuck its nose in and caused some of this shit. |
|||
Monsieur Muggles |
|||
|
^^^ Very true. I don't see myself having a house until well in my mid-30s, if even then, no matter how much money I save.
|
|||
Hamdingers |
|||
TC wrote: TWICE! |
|||
Dr Weems |
|||
TC wrote: PREDATORY! BANKS LIKE PEOPLE WITH BAD CREDIT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET TONS OF INTEREST/PENALTY FEES.HEY QUATO.....maybe it would be best if you stayed UNDER the shirt next time. You ain't all that full o' wisdom like they all say.
|
|||
quietsurvivorfan |
|||
|
I lived in Phoenix in the 80's when the Lincoln savings and loan in the Phoenix area went belly up. SOmehow that landed a HUGE amount of houses on the
market. For instance, the homes on my street were about 1300 to 1500 square feet and sold in the 70's and 80's at the time. They were basically starter
homes or homes the size that would not have huge air conditioning bills (that is how I sized my house back then, I wanted a summer a/c bill under $200 at that
time). Somehow, just on my short, 2 block street, we ended up with 5 or 6 foreclosed homes from this S&L debacle. THe banks were DUMPING those homes on the
market for the mid 50's, way below what most of us had loans for. This was back when you had to have at least 10% down to get a house, no matter what. So
most folks on my street, if they had to move, ended up giving the houses back to the lenders, which exacerbated the problem. I ended up moving back to
California, so I turned my house into a rental and had to take a negative cash flow for a few years until the prices moved back up.
I think they are using this scenario as the reason they passed this bill in Congress. I agree the lenders should be punished for their irresponsible lending practices, however, if all these homes flood the market, responsible, tax paying citizens can be really harmed by the whole market falling apart. I read somewhere that only about 20% of the defaulting homeowners are going to QUALIFY for help because they are that far over their heads with these loans. The ones who do qualify for help WILL have to share any gains they make on their homes later with the government to pay the feds back for their help. However, I bet if Obama wins and we get a huge democrat majority in Congress, they will pass a law giving THOSE homeowners a break, thus the taxpayers are fucked either which way. |
|||
Hamdingers |
|||
|
You're not very quiet at ALL.
|
|||