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Alright, I knew I had a different opinion than most people about it, but I'm not going to argue about it.

Anyone have guesses on the spoiler clues?

No takers to explain why Michelle has such a huge fan club? And at least someone agrees with me. You guys do realize that, yes, I did like the Fiji Demerge, but there's still 17 twists that are in front of it.

The next few should be up either late tonight or tomarrow.

17. 11 Mile Hike


Seasons: Guatemala
Memorable Quote: "The last time I hiked 11-miles was never." -Brandon

Here's the much better of the two twists from the start of Guatemala. Right after Steph and Bobby Jon jumped into the game, Jeff told the castaways that they'd be having their first challenge right now, an eleven mile hike. Now, we've had challenges right off the bat in Pearl Islands and Palau (and the Pearl Islands one may be the best challenge of all time), but this was completely original and completely shocking to the Guatamala castaways. Nakum won by a very slim margain in relation to the length of the challenge, and Margaret got her chance to shine when all of the guys except Brandon dropped dead. I still think it's funny that Nakum had by far the strongest guys in the game, yet they were all down and out while the girls had to do all of stuff around camp. There's not much to write about here, but the "What the hell is going on" factor and the actual challenge itself is enough to put it this high.






































16. Reward winners kidnap


Seasons: China
Memorable Quote: "We got quite a bit of good information from Leslie but it was more in a kind of fun girls gossiping. You can get the same results but you can do them in a happy, nice way." -Peih-Gee

I'm a huge fan of two tribes mingling, and I liked the China kidnapping twist alot. It wasn't like the other times it happened in PI or CI because they didn't skip tribal council, but one member of the reward winners choice would spend a day with them. It had some great moments like the Jaime/Leslie alliance, Dave scaring the crap out of everyone on Fei Long, and the whole idol fiasco. Sure, it might seem a little ridiculous that half of the time it happened, the person who left was the one kidnapped, but that is because Leslie blabbed and Crazy Dave was, well, crazy. Either way, I liked the way that no one was told about the idols and how the clues were given, but the fact that it played too much of a role in the season brings this one down for me. Again, there's not much to write because this was more of a great concept than anything else.

























15. Vanuatu Double Boot


Seasons: Vanuatu
Memorable Quote: "I think that me and Julie and Lisa and Eliza are going to be voting for Twila. And I'm pretty sure that Leann and Amy and Twila and Scout will be voting for me tonight." -Mia

Mia's assessment was dead on...well, almost.

I've already discussed how much I hate the double boot twist overall, but I will admit that the first time it was thrown into play during Vanuatu, it wasn't bad at all. Yes, it definitely killed character development, and (as shown on Solitary 2.0) it robbed us of what could have been a great character in John P. by the guys still having to go to tribal council (after having won the challenge) which is why it doesn't make it any higher. Also, the reason that the producers brought it back again and again was because it worked out so well in Vanuatu. Looking back, that really sucks, but I was still able to enjoy it take place.

What happened was that Jeff announced that the challenge would not be for immunity, but reward, and the two tribes would both be going to tribal council. This in itself was great just because it was the first time it happened, and everyone was dumbfounded. Now, everyone just says "whatever, let's do this shit" because they are expecting twists (This is all except for Ozzy because he was such a big fan of the show that he was the only one confused when Probst announced it in Cook Islands). Also, the winning tribe would get a chance to all compete for immunity which is much fairer than what happened when the other tribe had the chance to save someone in Palau, Guatamala, and Cook Islands. Now, the guy's tribe won, and Mr. Boring himself won immunity, AND the right to go to the girls camp to mingle and give immunity to one of them at tribal council. I'm a huge fan of the two tribes communicating in some way when they show it on air. Most cases in recent seasons, they just show Nate bitch about how much Aitu sucks for 30 seconds, that's it. Luckily for us, they showed John K. communicating with the girls (and calling Eliza annoying, haha), but the best part of it was the fact that the Yasur was in shambles. They had just voted off Dolly in a 5-4 vote. There was arguing, yelling, complaining because of a huge split in the tribe. Add on to the fact that everyone was begging John to give them immunity, and you get a great episode. In the end, John K. gave immunity to Ami (because he didn't realize who she was I guess), and Lisa switched her vote sending Mia home in a 5-3 vote. I was happy that she left because Twila was entertaining as hell, and I really enjoyed the episode. Maybe it's because they spent almost zero time forcusing on the boring Lopevi tribal council, but this was the only time the double boot twist worked out. I'm still wishing that CBS has gotten rid of it forever, but I doubt it especially if we have another 20 person season.


Edited a few times to fix a bunch of grammatical errors.

Quiddity wrote:

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Totally agree on Michelle. Who the hell was this person? Its like the Angie love in BB10. I just don't get it. And people here actually wanted her to be on FvsF! @_@ I absolutely despised that twist though because I hate late merges, and thats exactly what it was. For all intents and purposes, they didn't merge until 9 in Fiji, it was a tribal switch at 10.

I hate Vanuatu's double boot ep for the same reason I hate all double boot eps, it takes away an entire episode and essentially kills half if not more of the double boot episode itself due to the complicated challenge and two tribal councils, so character development takes a huge hit.

BTW, Guatemala also had the winners compete for individual immunity, which is definately the fairest way to go about things in that scenario IMHO.

I hate most late merges as well, but I can't hate Fiji's just because I like the concept of an actual demerge (at 8, or 10 if there was an early merge) psyching the players out too much.

Agreed on the double boot concept, but from my write up, I obviously liked the way it worked out the first time. After it happened in Palau, I wanted to shoot the person who came up with it.

And the only difference with Guatemala is that Rafe did not go to the other tribe, and the person he decided to save would stay (if they were the vote) like the current HII with the second most votes leaving. Let's just say I'm not a big fan of that.

CatLurvesDorothy wrote:

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I also very much enjoyed the China kidnapping twist.

Same here. It's only this low because it's pretty close to the PI reward winners concept except PI's was much better.

chapera rocks wrote:

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You liked PI's better, really?

Yep. The raiding of the other tribes camp part, not Rupert/Nate getting kidnapped (that was way back)