What a stupid saying.
How the fuck can a doornail be dead if it never lived?
Somebody stop the world and let me off. I've had it.
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Penelope McBagpipe |
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What a stupid saying.
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Hamdingers |
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Doornail.
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zippityboomboom |
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I believe it's "dumb as a doorknob."
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merkyl |
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::shakes head::
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NiceToAnimals |
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Yeah, doornail.
Q] From Clyde W Hathaway: "How about dead as a doornail?" [A] This is an ancient expression: we have a reference to this dating back to 1350, and it also appears in the fourteenth-century work The Vision of Piers Plowman and in Shakespeare's Henry IV. Another expression, of rather later date, is as dead as a herring, because most people only saw herrings when they were long dead and preserved; there are other similes with the same meaning, such as dead as mutton, or dead as a stone.
But why particularly a doornail, rather than just any old nail? Could it be because of the repetition of sounds, and the much better rhythm of the phrase
Dead enough for you? The usual reason given is that a doornail was one of the heavy studded nails on the outside of a medieval door, or possibly that the phrase refers to the particularly big one on which the knocker rested. A doornail, because of its size and probable antiquity, would seem dead enough for any proverb; the one on which the knocker sat might be thought particularly dead because of the number of times it had been knocked on the head. But William and Mary Morris, in The Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins, quote a correspondent who points out that it could come from a standard term in carpentry. If you hammer a nail through a piece of timber and then flatten the end over on the inside so it can't be removed again (a technique called clinching), the nail is said to be dead, because you can't use it again. Doornails would very probably have been subjected to this treatment to give extra strength in the years before screws were available. So they were dead because they'd been clinched. It sounds plausible, but whether it's right or not we will probably never know. |
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:pushes penny off world.
more room for everyone! |
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Hamdingers |
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More room? Jesus, woman, you'll knock us out of orbit.
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can someone please start a life after DEATH thread??
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blondemss |
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but we're on a treadmill so it's all good
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merkyl |
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Nah, we just think you're Canadian.
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Hamdingers |
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"More Pea-brained than PeePee."
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blondemss |
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split or snow?
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Hamdingers |
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I totally thought you were asking me something else there for a minute.
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Dead as a doornail
McBattier than a McBagpipe |
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thriving sobi |
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Some people are so dumb, they make Jesus cry.
of course, if you belive Jesus was really god, you're dumber than a doorknob. |
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Slower than Riceme's treadmill.
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r |
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Door nails were used to make coffins.
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OuijaBroad |
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Oh, Penny...
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Penelope McBagpipe |
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Did my pussy edits work at all?
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Softtaco |
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I usually reserve that one for people I've beaten to death with a hammer.
Then it seems to fit. |
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