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cabanachat |
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Seems a pairing made in heaven. Of course, so did Ugly Betty with Daisies, but I guess the ABC idiots just don't perceive the obvious.
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SmrtAss |
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Fluffynurse wrote:Hehe. I'm pretty sure his boss is Clams, not Crabs. |
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Fluffynurse |
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Eh crabs, clams whatever. Both are shellfish.
Seriously, I must have been thinking of Crabman on Earl at the time of that post. Nice catch SmrtAss. Love ya hun! |
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Cheyenie |
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I wonder if saving Annie from dying is going to have any major repercussions in future? Man, I don't want to wait two months to find out.
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dagny1331 |
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I need to watch this episode again. Hell, maybe I'll just watch the whole season to date again.
I flove this show. |
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cabanachat |
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seriously. this two-month break is fucking ridiculous. could ABC be any more inept? it's like they go out of their way to ruin the chances of anything
good, while crap like PRIVATE PRACTICE can do no fucking wrong.
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FeliciaM7 |
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Cheyenie wrote:I was wondering that too. Now ya know we're both Lost junkies because we believe that course correcting is not a good thing! I love that Lost and Life on Mars will be on back to back but in a way that's gonna be brutal. My mind is so deep in Lost that I have never been able to keep up with any show following Lost. My mind goes back to Lost and then my ass is on the Lost forum discussing and asking questions, etc. Then again, there was never a show like LoM following Lost so we'll see... |
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DownUpside |
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FeliciaM7 wrote:Sam's dad enjoyed and couldn't stand to not solve a crossword. Sam talked in the hospital about how he thought that maybe he was sent back in time to stop his dad from leaving. That was the lead-in for Annie to mention that maybe it was the cases Sam had worked on. At that moment in time, the reason as to why he was back in 1973 was the biggest puzzle he was stuck on. It's not a stretch to believe that after that conversation he put the solving hint his dad used together with the new purpose Annie had suggested. |
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Cheyenie |
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cabanachat wrote: I tried Private Practice but couldn't like it no matter how hard I tried. It's way too much like a daytime soap. |
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maxxfisher |
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Cheyenie wrote: The thing is has he changed that much? Was Annie really going to die? Wuld his dad have just beaten and left her? The hospital in the hostage situation never blew up, I think same would have remembered/known about that. The guy they thought threw the little girl off the roof was never heard from again in both cases. Did anyone find out the veteran was killed because he was gay? I'm not being clear. If you go by public knowledge, Sam didn't change anything. I think he always went back and always made those changes. He was destined to do this and intervene. It's not that he's setting things right, he's making sure they don't go wrong |
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FeliciaM7 |
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DownUpside - Thanks. Sometimes you really do have to draw me a picture. It kept looking like a jump from A to C and the simple mention of why
Sam was there being a PUZZLE filled in B for me.
maxx - So the officer assholedad beat up in '73 didn't die? In that case, I see what you're saying. Saving Annie only kept the past the same. Through the whole last episode I kept thinking his dad was gonna leave no matter what because that's how it had to be. If Sam had somehow changed his mind then that would be a change that would have a ripple effect, right? Is Sam aware that he's not supposed to make changes? If you go by public knowledge, Sam didn't change anything. I think he always went back and always made those changes. He was destined to do this and intervene. It's not that he's setting things right, he's making sure they don't go wrongOk, picture drawing time. You mentioned public knowledge. Does this mean subtle changes that don't affect anything known to be BIG at that time and in the future are ok? What if Croce listened to his strange advice and lived? It's not his destiny to change something like that, right? Talking to the kid who grows up to be a serial killer is not considered setting things right? You also said "I think he always went back and always made those changes." Am I reading that he's been in the past before? Time jumping? Or were you referring to the time he's been back in '73 since his accident only? |
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maxxfisher |
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I think that the past is the same because Sam was always going to go back. His mother came home crying in her red dress because "Det. Luke
Skywaler" stopped her from whoring herself out. I think that Annie didn't die because Sam stopped his father from killing her. I think the hospital
was not blown up because Sam prevented it, that is why he had no memory of the crime (because even 35 years later, people would remeber a hostage situation
where a hospital blew up). I think Jim Croce died because he didn't listen to Sam.
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cabanachat |
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that's my take, too. it certainly seems as if that's what we're supposed to assume at this point, anyway.
like, the "first" time he experienced '73 (as a kid) there was already an '08 (adult) version of him running around manipulating things -- thus his fear of any memorable interaction with his young self, since he has no memory of doing so as an adult. (or does he ...?) |
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Kris700 |
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The one difference he seems to have made is that he stopped the 4 year old version of himself from seeing his Dad and Annie in the woods.
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FeliciaM7 |
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like, the "first" time he experienced '73 (as a kid) there was already an '08 (adult) version of him running around manipulating things -- thus his fear of any memorable interaction with his young self, since he has no memory of doing so as an adult. (or does he ...?)That's wicked but cool. maxx - Both posts make sense but sound like two totally different theories. Nevermind me. I'll have an "ahhhh ok" moment in a couple of hours. hah. OT - awesome countdown. I'm getting excited! |
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dagny1331 |
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This is always the thing with time travel, it's very confusing when you really think about it.
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Fluffynurse |
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Felicia, you're a step ahead of me since I can't even try to think about the time travel implications. It just swirls around in my head.
Hell, I can't even get Crabs & Clams right! But I love it anyway. It's made missing TO'Q a little easier.
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ImCrushingYourHead |
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It's very hard to have consistent logic with time travel plots.
Does Sam still want people to believe him about being from 2008, or does he not care any more? I don't understand why he doesn't say things like, "Watergate. Nixon resigns. Paul McCartney & Wings." Or have I missed something? |
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FeliciaM7 |
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Fluffy - And made missing Jack a little easier! He's still my first luv though.
If Sam actually experiences life as an adult in 1973, how does his child self exist at the same time? If it's in his head, then what the heck are all of the other 1973 characters really doing during that time when they are shown interacting with him? If Annie is alive in 2008, and she met 2008 Sam, what would she recall? What does he recall? Etc. Yup, confusing.Forget the "ahh ok" moment. There went any bit of clarity I had at all. The first question is a damn good one. How can they exist at the same time?? As for question two.. my opinion is it's not all in his head. From what maxx said, Sam was always meant to go back so he is there and everything is really happening as we view it...? *groan*
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cabanachat |
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Kris700 wrote: We don't know that the kid didn't sneak into the woods again this time and see enough to still think that happens. Or maybe now he saw his dad shoot a MAN ... since he represses the entire memory until he travels back in time to the same point I think we can give them a pass on this one. |
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