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April R |
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true. I'm surprised none of us caught that Craig's name was never called.... they never called Alaina's either in the foreign version.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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I thought the host wasn't supposed to be privy to The Moles identity? Jon must of known and thats why he never called Craigs name for execution |
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iismepeter |
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April R wrote: IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE LONGEST TIME!!!!!!!
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Mateui |
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The CRG clue is the biggest mind-blowing one in retrospect. I can't believe we all missed it. The other clues were cool and all I suppose, but so hidden
that it's no wonder no one discovered them.
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YemaGrl1988 |
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April R wrote: Most of us did but you know by that point it was completely obvious that Craig was the mole.
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Kenneth |
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April R wrote: I did and I know a few other people mentioned it. That was the biggest factor for me that Craig was the Mole.
I actually searched the intro for clues and even freeze framed that part with the are codes and didn't notice them. So I liked that one.
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April R |
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haha.
well I haven't been reading speculation so sorry. congrats then to people who knew |
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CatLurvesDorothy |
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I caught the Craig thing which is why he was my mole pick for most of the season.
Except one ep when QuizGuy just swayed me really well to the Nicofomo camp. Seriously, how the hell did we miss "CRG" in the background? I think I even remember someone mentioning graffiti in the background but we all ignored it D: |
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sunsawed |
And the winner of Mole Winner Victim is... | ||
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A freaking mystery.
It seems like one player was bizarrely posting under two subnics. Between these two players who never posted together and never missed a week. They had Mole = Craig and Mark = Winner from the first game and every week. Plus five executions leading to an ASTOUNDING 28 out of 32 points. But the poster did not want to confess to being poth players. Hmmm. |
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CatLurvesDorothy |
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How did I do, Sun?
I think I got <10 despite being apparently good at picking the Mole this season. |
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Piranhahaha |
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I wonder if there are clues that they didn't confirm.
And how come the Mole's journal online didn't rate a mention? StarRider wrote:Yeah, I got hung up on an area code thingie via the Mole's journal, and saw it again tonight -- but as one of three choices. When we're supposed to be trying to figure out the identitity of the Mole, we're not supposed to be trying to figure out the ID of the final three! Any clue that points to other than a single identity is something that we'd disregard as it makes no sense. Fuckin' ABC. |
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I LUV TIJUANA |
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Extremely lame and obvious ending to a pretty lame season and the obvious ending to this series.
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The Purple Parrot |
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It wasn't that lame. I mean of course Nicole being the loser is extremely lame, but overall this season left a good taste in my mouth and I'm glad the
mole came back for at least one more season. <3
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colleenlover |
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Another good clue for the viewers at home for Craig being the Mole was every single episode of Paul and Nicole saying, "Craig is the Mole!" worst
editing ever.
Wow, don't know how I missed all those Mark is the winner clues -I don't remember him every talking about his wife or taking so many notes. |
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wallytosa |
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Why is Mark winning so terrible? Nicole winning would have been worse. Mark studied. Even though he tied four times for last, the fact is he beat them out
with quicker times. He beat them fair and square. The winner of the show isn't who knew who the Mole was all along, but who survived and won when they
had to and lasted to the end...no matter how they got there. I admit the questions on most of the quizes were stupid....the who standing next to who ones.
But getting 17 out of 20 when most of them were those types from the entire season....I applaud Mark.
Craig wasn't a bad Mole, but Nicole would have been better. |
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littltimmy |
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The one problem I have with this season is it was all too obvious, editing wise. Mark was shoved down our throats as the winner (I'm just doing it for my
wife and kids, I love them). Craig was shoved down our throats as the mole (Paul and Nicole constantly said he was the mole, Mark said he was the mole episode
one, and even Nicole's mom thought he was the mole in the behind the scenes footage), and Nicole was obiously the loser (pegged as a villain by Craig, seen
as a total bitch by most viewers). I knew if (or rather, because) Craig was the mole, that Mark was the winner, because he gave that whole confessional in the
very first task about why Craig is such an effective mole (I mean what a perfect cover). Like I said last time, we should be happy, if Nicole is not the mole,
that she even made it this far, because she is NOT winning with her edit.
One little tidbit I'm surprised wasn't a clue was the fact that Craig said he and Mark were the good guys, while Paul and Nicole were bad. Nicole, in the next episode, says the mole is not a bad guy. Am I the only one who was happy that Nicole was NOT the mole? If she was, a lot of people suspected her, including viewers, and it means her that her accomplishment of making it this far was a lie, and her hilarity was something cooked up by the producers. This way, she's the last woman standing, she NARROWLY beat out her rival, Paul (in true rival fashion, because once you really know it was between them only, it becomes the epic battle we hoped the finale would be), and her strategies (quick quizes, suspicious behaviour), really worked, and her confessionals were not a half assed attempt to show she was actually a player. Also, it's hard to feel bad she lost because she bombed the last quiz. If she was close to beating Mark (like a few seconds, or one question), it would be frustrating. But she failed, totally. Mark got and 85, and she got a 65. Sure, it might be hard to stomach Mark getting so lucky on certain occasions (that Victoria one is really, really odd, and the Kristen one is pretty mind blowing, too). I have to wonder why Clay didn't tie with Mark that time. Didn't he vote the same way? Regardless, Nicole got lucky in that all her prime suspects left the nights she voted for them, leaving one, Craig. Also, if Mark had left instead of Victoria, or Kristen, Nicole would not have made the finals anyway, since she would have still thought Victoria or Kristen was the mole. And if she did figure it out, 13/20 is not a hard score to beat, and she probably would have lost in the finals anyway. Besides, it might have been nice for her to get the glory of winning, but she doesn't need the money. Mark does. Some clues were epically bad (4 eyes was clever, but so obscure). The CRG one was actually pretty clever in how a lot of people failed to see it, despite it's obviousness. I had to laugh at the "Craig's laugh" sound effect, since before they showed it I was like "and what sound will they use for Craig, a computer booting up"? It really was a sad attempt at a clue. I didn't get the whole "Craig's name was never entered on executions nights" clue. I mean, I understand the concept, but I noticed his name was never typed in, and I still found it a stupid clue. Now everyone is going to have to have their named typed in (in subsequent non-existent seasons), or else some contestants will be put under suspicion. The number, and writing, clues were really tiny, though, but I liked that one gave away the final 3. In the end, Craig was very good at avaoding suspicion, which makes him a decent mole, so I guess it's the editors fault for shoving him down our throats. Were the hoping for reverse phsychology to throw us off? Anyway, it was a good, if predictable season. We were very lucky that certain people made it as far as they did (Nicole, Paul, and to a certain extent, Mark).
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aslanscubs |
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April R wrote: Some of us did. Check out the spoiler or speculation thread. That's actually one thing that made me REALLY believe that Craig was the mole. ETA: BTW, I think I did okay in picking the Mole, Victim and Winner each week. I did miss a few victims and I think I picked Alex as the winner one week
but went back to Mark. I also missed one week due to a family emergency and I was out of town.
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littltimmy |
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I didn't think it was a bad reunion. Some bits of information (Mark's close calls, Paul picking Craig from day one) were really good. I still find it
funny that Nicole's mom picked Craig as the mole right away (without even knowing his name).
And why is no one mentioning how hilarious and nice it was for them to include footage of drunken players (or at least a wasted Paul) having fun together in a playground (I think it was the final 6). That was a very nice touch. I wish they showed more of that in the actual show (according to Paul's interviews, there were many moments like that). |
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Libra is a Whore Slut Skank |
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The winner and mole were predictable, but it could've been worse...
Like everyone said, most of the clues were too small to see. It's too bad that this will be the final season. The 10 PM timeslot killed it. RIP Mole... |
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sunsawed |
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Actually, I think the clue about Craig's name never being called was for the viewers and was done post filming during editing. Meaning, Craig's name was probably called during the reality of the filming.THIS. Pawlie had Criag on the top of his Mole List early (though never voted that way until fairly into the game) based upon his reactions to the Quiz. It's obvious that Craig's piss-poor poker face was edited out based upon this. Only Pawlie picked up on it and BULLY to him. (Kinda making Craig a BAD Mole.) Add on top of that Craig's Denial to the pot LESS than if he didn't give away the Exploding Safe plus ALLOWING Mark to have the Mole Dossier (when he got the last clue FIRST and was CLOSER to the Bridge). ABC WAIVED HIM AWAY, allowing Mark to have the Mole's Dossier when Craig prolly would have let the pot have the extra $75,000. Making what Craig, with a bias to ADD to the Pot, would have ADDED more to the Pot more than what he denied the Pot. Both Mark and Nicole denied more money to the Pot than Craig! Mark, with his indignity, "I ain't doing this shit," and Nicole's faux-Moleyness. |
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