She tied in the second to last quiz (which considering it was only two people quizzing and they both had the mole down is understandable) and one earlier time
I can't remember (and wikipedia doesn't have listed... can somebody confirm if she did tie twice?). If it's anytime I think it was when Bobby or
Liz left since I'm pretty sure it's not Alex(she quizzed Craig and he quizzed her), Clay(see Alex's), Marcie(didn't take the quiz),
Kristen(tied with Mark), or Victoria(tied with Mark)
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Official "Worst.Winner.Ever" Thread also, what makes the best player best?
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Posts: 29883 (08/12/08 5:25 PM) Not a Registered User anymore |
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Posts: 3167 (08/12/08 5:53 PM) |
Nicole was also the fastest in the Victoria 3-way tie I think.
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Posts: 18365 (08/12/08 5:58 PM) |
Yeah, uh, Mark did NOT outplay Nicole. NOBODY was quizzing for Mark, while she had 3 people at the final 6 quizzing for her.Actually that is a wash because that fact made it easier for both of them to stay alive as neither were the Mole. |
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Posts: 364 (08/12/08 6:07 PM) Registered user |
She tied in the second to last quiz (which considering it was only two people quizzing and they both had the mole down is understandable) and one earlier time I can't remember (and wikipedia doesn't have listed... can somebody confirm if she did tie twice?). If it's anytime I think it was when Bobby or Liz left since I'm pretty sure it's not Alex(she quizzed Craig and he quizzed her), Clay(see Alex's), Marcie(didn't take the quiz), Kristen(tied with Mark), or Victoria(tied with Mark)I don't recall him saying Nicole tied twice. The first tie was a three way tie between Victoria, Mark, and ALEX, not Nicole. The the next tie was when Mark tied with Kristen. |
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Posts: 54 (08/13/08 10:54 AM) |
The non-celebrity versions of this show have a track record for robbing the best player for the win. I loved S1 but I felt Jim should have gotten it as Steve
seemed too much like Katherine's butt buddy (despite that, it was a magical season). In S2, Heather was on point but she got lonely and desperate and
slipped up. Now, here, we're supposed to feel good that somebody who wanted the money the most got it, whereas the second place finisher had a great
strategy throughout.
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Posts: 2008 (08/13/08 11:13 PM) Registered user |
WylDawg wrote: Normally I would agree with you because so many dominant male players get hated on because they took out everyones favorite but solely based on gameplay
Mark really is the worst winner in any competitive Us Reality Show. He lucks out 4 seperare occasions and he still doesn't know who the mole is when
it's down to 4 people and is saved by a random bullshit exemption tailored to his skill sets. A skeptical person might look at this and say 'the
show is rigged' becausee they wanted a "good person" to win in the end.
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Posts: 4364 (08/14/08 11:15 AM) Registered user |
Face it, it doesn't matter if Nicole was more spot on,what matters is how you do on the quiz. It was close, but Mark survived every time and STOMPED Nicole
in the final quiz
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Posts: 10625 (08/14/08 2:39 PM) Registered User |
Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: X |
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Posts: 11971 (08/14/08 3:07 PM) Registered User |
No shit. The whole "ZOMG how is she supposed to remember where everyone is standing?!?!?!?" crap is just stupid, since anyone who couldn't figure
out you should pay attention to that shit after the first couple quizzes is too fucking stupid to win anyways. Knowing who the mole was and still getting 7
questions wrong isn't exactly something to be proud of.
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Posts: 3191 (08/14/08 3:21 PM) |
cindidindi76 wrote: 13 is a pretty average score on the final quiz. Have you never seen previous seasons? People don't GET 19s and 20s.
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Posts: 4372 (08/14/08 3:29 PM) Registered user |
But you do have to be observent. I understand the frustration of Mark being such a lucky winner and having Paul and Nicole figure it out weeks before he did,
but by the rules, Mark was the best player. If you have a problem, blame the structure of the quiz, whether or not it shuld give more weight to the Moles
actual identity compared to arbitrary bullshit, fine. Mark was the best player according to the rules for this season
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Posts: 3195 (08/14/08 3:50 PM) |
Oh, see I know what your problem is. You are under the false impression that winner = best player. That's now how it works on most reality shows,
especially the Mole.
What's funny is that it's incredibly contradictory. The winner of the last US Mole season never took any notes, so it doesn't really make sense, unless you call him the worst player. Part of the game is getting people to suspect you as the Mole. Sure you can win if you don't, but you aren't a better player, especially if you are constantly tying for last on the quiz. Besides, the first five or so rounds of the Mole are often based on luck. For all we know, Marcie was a phenomenal player who just split her answers an unfortunate way. |
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Posts: 10626 (08/14/08 3:53 PM) Registered User |
All of the mole winners had a balance of luck and gameplay. Nicole could have negated all of Mark's luck by beating him on the last quiz. She didn't,
not even close. By being so certain that Craig was the Mole, Nicole only had one player to focus on, while Mark had more. That was even more advantageous to
her, and she still couldn't beat him in the quiz.
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Posts: 22475 (08/14/08 3:53 PM) Registered user |
Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: No problem, content-wise. Just wish it had a "back" button. |
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Posts: 29899 (08/14/08 4:06 PM) Not a Registered User anymore |
GnarlsInCharge wrote:You know it wasn't until just now that I realized he'd have an advantage by being a teacher. I'm pretty sure if it was an art, medical, or um... something that Paul was good at challenge people would have screamed that it was bullshit as well. And you people aren't seriously saying that "Where is the mole standing from my perspective" is a GOOD quiz question are you!? |
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Posts: 3197 (08/14/08 4:09 PM) |
It's a shitty quiz question, and I can't even remember it being used on a final quiz before (and it was RARELY used on normal quizzes previously,
right?). Why did ABC decide to include so many of those questions instead of info actually pertinent to the game?
I mean, I can understand: Who was standing on the far left in the final mission, but wtf, where was the Mole standing in episode 4? How fucking stupid. |
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Posts: 4373 (08/14/08 4:12 PM) Registered user |
Dictatorship wrote: The winner IS the best player,no matter what way you slice it. Mark was a better player then Nicole in their season, Eric and Danielle were better racers then Dustin and Kandice, Aras was a better player then Cirie, and so on That's just the way it is, and unless you have an alternative rubric, you can't deny it. |
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Posts: 29902 (08/14/08 4:23 PM) Not a Registered User anymore |
No matter how you slice it?
Amber. Boogie. Adam. Countless BBUK winners. Do you honestly believe THEY were the best players because they made it to the end somehow? SERIOUSLY? |
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Posts: 4377 (08/14/08 4:29 PM) Registered user |
Yes. Anyone who makes it to the finals and wins according to the rules, they deserve it. even Amber Brkich. The only person who didn't deserve it is Dick,
and even that claim is not verified.
Will didn't win f4 veto, Janelle didn't win f3 HOH, Boogie deserves it over Erika, Boogie deserves it. Adam made several smart decisions in the game and was more deserving then Ryan, who made unneccessary moves. Any winner, they deserved it,unless it was rigged. How could that possibly come into question? A loser might seem more deserving, but somewhere along the way, through happenstance or a blunder, they blew it, and deserved to lose. Even Boston Rob. The jury was a bunch of motherfucking assholes and total c.unts, but that was Robs bad luck. |
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Posts: 10628 (08/14/08 4:31 PM) Registered User |
That's a different type of game, Will. There is no right and wrong with those games. It's all subjective. With the Mole there is an actual quiz with
right and wrong answers. You either answer correctly or go home. So ultimately, the players dictate their own destiny. Nicole had the opportunity to prove
she was the best player, and she screwed up the quiz. That's not Mark's fault, it's her own.
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