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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4476 (08/18/08 7:38 PM) Registered user |
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Jedijake |
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Well think about this point if you will, Will.
Back in Season 9, there began to be major hoopla about Survivor casting "mactors" (model/actors). Of course, that was the time when Britney, Paris, and cast of all of those Mtv/Beach shows were hot. I was near the top of the list of people who complained endlessly about that. I just didn't understand at the time. Now they aren't, there are no acting jobs unless you are 12-15 years old and have a split personality or a twin or two, and the same 5-10 people are getting all the decent roles in Hollywood. Suffice to say, being a mactor isn't really a valid goal, not because they are stuck waiting while tending bar, but because there aren't even any paid jobs out there to have if they DO make it. Which is why it amazes me that CBS has kept the earnings for Survivor at a million dollars. Certainly with inflation from 2000, that would be a LOT more maybe? But now you can answer a bunch of questions against 11 year olds and not starve and do the same. Still, nobody's even come up victorious in that. Survivor is 8 years old and going into its 17th season with almost no true public notice. Those who still like the show should just be glad (and rather amazed) that it still exists while laughing at the pathetic fools who actually get chosen for the show anymore. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4480 (08/18/08 8:17 PM) Registered user |
Very valid points JediJake., and I agree with you. I hate to parrot others, but this obsession that we have with famous people is sick. I don't think
though that many of the mactors on the show are that bad. People here try to dehumanize,of course, their sucksters, but some of them actually seem to believe
the inanity they spew, and that bothers me. As I said before, half the cast of Survivor:Borneo could be considered mactors, and if they were the cast coming
up, would get the same meteoric amount of abnormally intense, irrational hatred. Second point, they should absolutly raise the jackpot amount to $2,000,000 or
maybe more.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4488 (08/19/08 10:40 AM) Registered user |
Or we could just find the most bigoted, close minded people we can find, put them on the show, and demonstrate that your thesis is wrong. Like I said,
Sucks=Anything goes and this forum=a semi stance on accountability.
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Jedijake |
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Due to the fact that (let's face it, it's true) the name SURVIVOR has become a parody of itself, they should cast only LA bartenders and waiters and
give the show a different name to shed the Survivor stereotype.
Oh wait, they did do that; it was called Pirate Master. That was a huge success, eh? At least Survivor still finishes its seasons on TV. Seriously, they may as well cast the type they have been casting. Those poor folks don't have any other way to make money. Nowadays, there are several ways to make a million dollars (note to reader: PLEASE let me know what some of those ways are!!!!-thanks) |
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Jedijake |
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Tell me, are you serious when you say that every mactor is some vapid wraith with np purpose in life? If so, are there any exceptions to the rule?Good point, Will. But I'll help those who can't otherwise respond. The term "mactor" worked back in seasons 9-11 pretty well. Then there was no more reason for the term since the people who may have been called "mactors" certainly weren't on Survivor-they were on Mtv and "America's Got No Talent". But mactors are what they are unless they go by another title, that being "employee". I say, cast all the pretty, good looking people you want on Survivor now, just make sure most of the the people can speak in full sentences and know how to pronounce at least 1 or 2 multisyllabic words in those sentences. We just have to keep this show alive for 3 more seasons is all. |
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Will |
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Can you guys plz not shorten his name to just Will? That's my name.
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There's a reason why "Mactor" was not really around before, say, season 6. That's when we started to get an influx (which started in
Thailand) of people who were just there so a guy would tune in to see tits and a girl to see abs.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4514 (08/19/08 10:20 PM) Registered user |
Ah, I see Jake. I can see why you have such a dystopic look at the show, but I respectfully disagree. What I do agree with is the lazieness SEG does with refusing to look beyond socal for recruiting. Recruits are not inherently bad, neither are younger folks. I think people who have been rejected 16 times probably shouldn't apply to the show again. |
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Posts: 4515 (08/19/08 10:24 PM) Registered user |
JerseyJerk wrote: As much as I defend mactors, I actually am interested in the folk mentioned above a little bit more. What I was suggesting is that there is an inherent bias against younger socal players. Even some who aren't from california, maybe just because they "look" mactorish. Sucks has EVERY right to be hostile, infact, its a sucksters duty, but I have a problem with those who actually take Sucks philosophy seriously. |
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Jedijake |
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In the first few seasons, Survivor was a fad and it was seen as a cool way and reason to leave work for a couple of months and was able to be kept secret.
Now those same people who wanted an adventure and a chance to win a million dollars and be on one of the most popular TV shows in the world have moved on. They aren't allowed to take off from work and Survivor isn't "cool" anymore. So, they are left with people who either don't have real jobs or are easy to access for the show. In other words, "normal" people aren't the ones to pursue this endeavor. |
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craig |
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Mactors are people like Jonathan Penner, Jerri, Manthey, Colby, and Fairplay.
Gary S14 and Denise S15 are the least mactorish people of their seasons. Mactors are people who dare to try to live their dreams, rather than settling down to be accountants and make a safe paychecks. Aspiring professional and Olympic athletes take similar risks. |
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craig |
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Face it, Borneo showed that most Survivors will become mactors if their characters make a splash on the show (see also Rob M and Rupert), and the casting of
Mactors began in S2 and S3. Actress Jerri was the best character in Outback, and bartneder Brandon was one of the more memorable from Africa. Lex is a mactor
too, only with aspirations in music with various bands.
Remember all the abuse Debb Eaton took, and how Cindy Hall lost her job as a zookeeper. That explains why people with no mactorish aspirations tend not to apply. Why publicly humiliate yourself like Kathy, Chet, and Joel? Some of the early mactor boots from S10-S11 are an example of bad casting (Morgan, Blake), but their are plenty of ordinary blokes who suck on the show too. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4602 (08/25/08 10:59 AM) Registered user |
I agree. The problem with "mactors" is that they take up too large a percentage of the recent casts, but mactors are not inherently bad. People on
Sucks should be vicious(fuck,they should be a lot more vicious then they are now. The BB forum is more in the spirit of Sucks now then Sucks itself is), but
they aren't being vicious. Look back a few posts ago. Someone litterally suggested mass murder. She wasn't serious I don't think, but people here
have a sick, unfair prejudge against mactors. Blame Burnett, that's my motto.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4603 (08/25/08 11:00 AM) Registered user |
And like Jake said, many professionals can't take time off, but that was true during 2001 as well. Survivor was popular, but mactors have always
infiltrated the show while people with "real jobs" are aq little more few and far between.
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foulmouthedleon |
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It's human nautre to judge on appearance and, granted, that's all we have right now with this new cast...BUT some previous reality show contestants
that we might also judge as "mactors" have turned out to be pretty entertaining when the show comes to air. So why don't we reserve judgment
until we can at least hear them talk, m'kay?
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4607 (08/25/08 12:09 PM) Registered user |
I don't know what people see in Colby.
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foulmouthedleon |
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Names aside, I trust you see what I was trying to say?
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 4608 (08/25/08 12:34 PM) Registered user |
Totally, we all have different tastes. I actually like Colby, hell I like most of these people and give them benifit of the doubt. A true Suckster never should
give benifit of the doubt, but based on the fact that they appeared on Survivor at all, not because of some prejudge! Now that I've found a like minded
indivuidual, lets trash em!
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monique90210 |
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Are you trying to say that Dr. Will, Janelle, Colby, and Bobby Jon were all Mactors?
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