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JamMasterShake	3 Early Alliances -- Why did they fail?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 327 (09/01/08 02:17 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad There is a good chance that 3 of the F4 will have come from 3 separate alliances that formed within week 1. Keesha (April/Libra/Renny?), Dan (Brian/Ollie/Steven) and Memphis (Jessie/Michelle/Angie) Two part question: 1) What was the main factors in each one of those alliances falling apart? 2) Which one of those 3 alliances would have gone the farthest if all 3 stayed intact?
boredmale		#1	[-]
Posts: 8060 (09/01/08 02:28 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Anytime people group up together it instantly puts a target on there back. If i was playing the game i would try hard as hell staying out of an aliiance the first 3-4 weeks unless it was like this season where everybo grouped on up Brian
Cassidy666		#2	[-]
Posts: 8505 (09/01/08 02:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think it was more that the individuals who survived those alliances ended up worked with people they trusted rather than blindly following the others in their original alliance.
ReximusNiko		#3	[-]
Posts: 17 (09/01/08 02:33 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Large alliances fail completely. Alliances of 2 rarely go badly. With more people in a group they get suspicious and shit. M/K/D are lucky to be the last ones spared.
James Barber		#4	[-]
Posts: 13124 (09/01/08 02:34 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Is this the first time an alliance at the end of the show is comprised of people from three different early alliances? Dan's alliance splintered because Brian overplayed and Ollie was an idiot. Memphis' alliance splintered because Jessie and Michelle sucked as players, they all targeted the wrong person (Steven), and Angie was targeted by Keesha. Angie tied a number of different players together. I guess not winning enough comps also hindered this group. Keesha's alliance was full of too many selfish, unstable players to last. Keesha and Renny jumped at just the right time, as April was already planning to turn on them. It cost Libra, but Libra also made the right decision.
jackbauer1982		#5	[-]
Posts: 464 (09/01/08 03:38 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	James Barber wrote: Is this the first time an alliance at the end of the show is comprised of people from three different early alliances? I would argue that Mike, Will, Janelle and Erika worked together enough to be considered an alliance even though Erika and Janelle never really knew that Mike/Will were playing with both of them until F4, but it was an odd mash up of Chilltown, S6 and the floaters.
DAnn Coulter		#6	[-]
Posts: 3699 (09/01/08 03:44 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	They failed because they SUCK...and they didn't have a strong leader like Maggot..... No alliance will ever live up to the Nerd Herd Ownage!!! ..............
craig		#7	[-]
Posts: 13825 (09/01/08 04:25 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think Libra and April both wanted to be the strong leader Maggie type, but were too headstrong to share power. And Keesha was always a lose cannon who wanted to play like Diane rather than work with girls. She is willing to be patsy to the Bromance, but not to a female leader. She made a big stink about wanting to protect Stephen week 2, and refused to put Memphis up. The real mystery is how these 3 got together to begin with, since April and Keesha both said they get along better with males. Dan and Memphis are both "bros before hos" kind of guys. It's just that Brian grabbed Dan for his alliance first and wanted to target Memphis. So M got in with Jessie and Michelle, even through his quiet personalites doesn't match with their more hotheaded style.Angie was a refugee from Brian's alliance that they recruited as a fourth. The floaters like Dan, Jerry, and Renny had it made when Libra and Keesha went after the other alliance week 4. It was predictable that bigger targets like Libra and Jesse were toast. Last Edited By: craig 09/01/08 04:55 AM. Edited 1 times.
sunflower101		#8	[-]
Posts: 3313 (09/01/08 05:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad JamMasterShake wrote: There is a good chance that 3 of the F4 will have come from 3 separate alliances that formed within week 1. Keesha (April/Libra/Renny?), Dan (Brian/Ollie/Steven) and Memphis (Jessie/Michelle/Angie) Two part question: 1) What was the main factors in each one of those alliances falling apart? 2) Which one of those 3 alliances would have gone the farthest if all 3 stayed intact? Renny wasn't in the April/Libra/Keesha alliance. The 4th person in that alliance was Ollie. Keesha joined a side alliance with Renny starting in week 2. Remember Keesha started getting close to Renny, when she was upset that Steven was going home. Remember April/Libra found out that Ollie was in the Brian alliance. Ollie rated out the Brian alliance because April was afraid that Ollie would use her and dump her later.
DAnn Coulter		#9	[-]
Posts: 3702 (09/01/08 05:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	craig wrote: Dan and Memphis are both "bros before hos" kind of guys. This is why I love them! and why they're going to win. hos always get in the way (specially if they're crazy like those bitches) so, bros need to stick together. <333
highwind44029		#10	[-]
Posts: 24089 (09/01/08 05:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	DAnn Coulter wrote: They failed because they SUCK...and they didn't have a strong leader like Maggot..... No alliance will ever live up to the Nerd Herd Ownage!!! .............. Team Christ soz They didn't even have a cult leader like Maggie either.
sunflower101		#11	[-]
Posts: 3315 (09/01/08 05:58 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	DAnn Coulter wrote: craig wrote: Dan and Memphis are both "bros before hos" kind of guys. This is why I love them! and why they're going to win. hos always get in the way (specially if they're crazy like those bitches) so, bros need to stick together. <333 Keesha could still win the final hoh. Of course if she picks Memphis rather then Dan for the final 2, then she loses. I could see Keesha easily win the final hoh, especially if Memphis throws it. I can see Memphis throwing it so he doesn't have to be the bad guy between Keesha and Dan.
James Barber		#12	[-]
Posts: 13126 (09/01/08 06:18 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	highwind44029 wrote: DAnn Coulter wrote: They failed because they SUCK...and they didn't have a strong leader like Maggot..... No alliance will ever live up to the Nerd Herd Ownage!!! .............. Team Christ soz They didn't even have a cult leader like Maggie either. Was Team Christ an alliance like Friendship where you had to stay loyal no matter what, or were they people who felt they had no choice but to stick together? As soon as the real threats were gone, the guys and Sheila pounced on Natalie instead of getting rid of Sharon first. Keesha could still win the final hoh. Of course if she picks Memphis rather then Dan for the final 2, then she loses. I could see Keesha easily win the final hoh, especially if Memphis throws it. I can see Memphis throwing it so he doesn't have to be the bad guy between Keesha and Dan. I also see him throwing it, and her having a good chance of winning. The best chance Dan and Keesha have is to take each other, but they don't even seem to be considering the idea.
highwind44029		#13	[-]
Posts: 24090 (09/01/08 06:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Team Christ was merely an alliance formed out of necessity because James/Chelsia/Joshuah/Sharon (lol sharon) were starting to take over the game. Team Christ as an alliance dominated the game. All remaining members managed to take HOH's after Mattie got evicted.
0 hail mary 0		#14	[-]
Posts: 388 (09/01/08 06:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The main reason Dan, Brian, and Ollie falling apart was that they all hung out together making it easy to spot who was with who. Brian got them in trouble when he played house puppet master. Ollie left and then Steven did the same thing so he became a target The JAMO alliance was fine until they started grouping up and hanging out together. Angie attracted some attention when she went to save Brian and further suspicion was cast when Jessie was "mad" at her but didn't put her up. But what got them in trouble was when Michelle stopped hanging out with the girls and just hung out with Jessie. Memphis started hanging out with Angie. With the Coven off on their own and the old people doing their thing their alliance was figured out The Coven and Renny broke up because they started a war with JAMO and then amongst themselves
highwind44029		#15	[-]
Posts: 24091 (09/01/08 06:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Also, it's safe to say that all members of the final four have been part of a week 1 alliance. Jerry also had one with Brian.
Surfing Hippo in Trouble		#16	[-]
Posts: 266 (09/01/08 12:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad highwind44029 wrote: DAnn Coulter wrote: They failed because they SUCK...and they didn't have a strong leader like Maggot..... No alliance will ever live up to the Nerd Herd Ownage!!! .............. Team Christ soz They didn't even have a cult leader like Maggie either. You could argue that Natalie was TC's Maggie. If anyone wanted James/Chelsia/Sharon/Joshuah gone it was her and you could tell that that was always her main focus. For example when Adam didn't nominate James she got really pissed and her and Ryan swayed him back to getting James out. I don't know. I always thought that Nattie was the leader of the group until Final 5, when the alliance just collapsed and turned into Sharon/Sheila and Adam/Ryan and Natalie was left alone.

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