Kota:
Bob- UTR1
Charlie- INV1
Corinne- MOR2
Dan- OTTN2
Marcus- MOR2
Randy- OTTN2
Susie- UTR1
Fang:
Ace- MORN5 (Didn't really show his thought process, but gotta lot of air time)
Crystal- CPM5
Kelly- MORM3
Ken- MOR4
Matty- CPP5
Sugar- CPP3
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McPhever224 |
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I'm gonna start posting again (I only posted for like the last three episodes of last season, but I have read this every week for seasons.)
Kota: Bob- UTR1 Charlie- INV1 Corinne- MOR2 Dan- OTTN2 Marcus- MOR2 Randy- OTTN2 Susie- UTR1 Fang: Ace- MORN5 (Didn't really show his thought process, but gotta lot of air time) Crystal- CPM5 Kelly- MORM3 Ken- MOR4 Matty- CPP5 Sugar- CPP3 |
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BlakeB717 |
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Well I'm glad we can move off this personal business and back to edgic. Agree to Disagree. =) I was just very offended that you made such a long rant based
on my being incompetent, because I do take edgic very seriously (ratings-wise). Water under the bridge now.
What I think makes Crystal hypocritical is this: Episode 2: Her fighting so hard about Dan, and not voting him off. Episode 4: You pretty much covered this one, the whole Jacque business Episode 5: Saying she's taking out Sugar, then saying she isn't keeping a grown man whose quitting, then right after saying Sugar needs to go because she has the idol (which she already assumed at the start), then ends up voting for GC anyways. Episde 6: Saying Ace needs to go constantly, then voting Kelly after a blow-up. It actually made it look like Crystal's vote was changed at TC and made personal. Do I think she as a person is a hypocrite? No! Do I dislike her as a person? No! But I despise the character they've created (which means they've done a great job with her, honestly, to get a reaction), and I think strategically she's been shown as a moron (which is why she doesn't win). I think her story is about being an Olympian and coming into new territory as a loser. I'm pretty sure now she makes the merger, but, she's going to lose to Randy and his new possy because she's a physical threat. |
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Oowatanite |
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Those complaining about how "mean" this thread is should really take a stroll down to the archived Edgic threads of earlier seasons when noted bitch
CC was terrorizing everyone in Edgic.
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BlakeB717 |
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LOL CC, whatever happened to that one?
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TheLurkerSpeaks |
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Fine, Blake, if you stick to it, so will I.
That doesn't mean I won't disagree including about your definition of hypocrisy. There's no doubt Crystal has been a major character in determining the boot of her tribe so far, or at least that's been the edit. However, almost all of these incidents you've brought up have been edited the way they have been not to reflect on Crystal's inconsistency but to maintain suspense for the vote. In Episode 2, without the possibility of voting out Dan, it was pretty clear Gillian would go, but voting off Dan never rose beyond the discussion level even with Crystal. With Jacquie, the choice Crystal faced between a strong competitor who might not be loyal and a weak competitor who seemingly was is presented as the unknown going into TC. With that setup, the viewers understand her vote whichever way she goes. With GC, once again, the choice is framed well before TC with the final decision left in the air. I still maintain the correct course here would have been to handle both GC and the idol in one go, but apparently the Fang members couldn't put that vote together (due to Matty, or whoever). I still don't see hypocrisy in this choice although I do see a lack of strategy (that wasn't emphasized in the editing). As for this last episode, she stated her preference to vote out Ace, but her standing within the tribe is definitely weakening. There was no way Matty was going to vote for Ace, and without GC, Crystal lacks the clout to push the vote where she wants. If Crystal's was the only vote for Kelly among her main alliance, then perhaps the impression you took exists, but it is pretty clear Kelly was the target all along. (We obviously missed some of the planning. I have to think Kelly's talk with Ace was because she recognized she needed votes to direct the target elsewhere in the dwindling Fang tribe. Without that discussion being clarified, it actually looks like Kelly is the one voting emotionally at TC.) |
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TheLurkerSpeaks |
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Yep. CC was difficult, and my battles with her are well preserved in the S8 archive. I'm glad this disagreement didn't get that nasty or drawn out.
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BlakeB717 |
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Good, if you disagree with me I expect you to tell me why =)
I agree with the suspense of the vote (which makes her not a winner) but every time it's her, and the audience can't help be associate it with Crystal; "that girl who keeps changing her mind". BRB, I'm going to search around in the S8 thread, I have GOT to see this =P |
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colleenlover wrote:I did not expect this level of discourse when I popped in here to see what the discussion was like. I don't really have much comments about this episode other than there still continues to be incredibly dumb gameplay by the people on Fang and, more importantly, more of Corinne was shown! I believe Charlie should get his first INV also. I think it's clear Crystal and Randy were given negaive edits. Both were quite OTT as well.
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colleenlover |
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Well, maybe we're not being shown everything on Fang. Maybe Ace and Sugar played around with the idol bait and switch enough to screw up the other four.
And I'm sorry but I think so far Marcus and his crew are really bad players as well- I still think their gameplay could have resulted in a Four to Six
minority by winning.
So far, I'm actually liking this season a lot. The only drawback is the ultimate lack of suspense for me if Marcus win (he will). Nothing against him, just I don't want it so cut and dry. |
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wallduck |
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Ace CPN5: They should pay this guy extra for the great material he gives them.
Bob UTR1 Charlie INV Corinne UTR2: I'm very disappointed in her edit. Coulda been a memorable UTRN. Crystal CPN5: looking forward to the Crystal-Randy clash of the titans Dan OTTN2: When someone gets such a gratuitously insulting episode, it usually means he's going soon, maybe next. Kelly OTTN3: What deliciously nasty treatment she got. I will miss the shots of her at TC voting each week, with the camera looking over her shoulder so we could ogle her cleavage. I don't think it was meant as a compliment. Ken MOR3 Marcus UTR3: just-right facetime for a winner (yawn) Matty OTTP5: the Bobby Jon comparison was a good one. Randy OTTN2: maybe UTRNN2? Tough one to rate. Sugar OTTP3 Susie UTR1 |
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This season has odd editing, because Fang is such a negatively edited tribe. It's hard to separate Fang's edit from its individual members' edits. Because Fang is portrayed as inept and dumb, most of the players seem to get N by association, but then we have players who are just as dumb but transcend Fang's edit (Sugar). We also have the player who is above Fang's edit but gets his own N edit (Ace). And then the original Fang members are tied into the Fang is Hell storyline. I don't understand! Also, I'm rating Crystal M. :) |
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Phoenix1269 |
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wallduck wrote:oh no... every sunday... it's up that damn mountain i go... past the burning bush and everything.... |
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she's going to lose to Randy and his new possy because she's a physical threat. I totally didn't read that as "posse" the first time through, lol!! So, I got $50 that says next weeks recap will say something along the lines of "Fang finally does something right and boots Kelly". Any takers? |
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wallduck wrote:
So Randy's only noticeable visibility was when he purposely and repetitively taunts the losing starving tribe, including one player in t.ears, and the
worst some of you are giving him is MORN instead of the proper OTTN ? And many of you have no problem giving Kelly OTTN this episode ? Wow. |
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cindidindi76 wrote:Nope. |
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Oowatanite |
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Cassidy666 wrote: Well, it started like this. Blake started posting in this thread after the show was over
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LOL
and I totally didn't read that as "posse" the first time through, lol!!LOL |
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colleenlover |
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Wow, Oo -that was a good episode. (no one was supposed to know about my secret alliance with serena though- dammit)
I do think Kelly was a negatively edited force in this game- when she was considered at all. The inserted face shots were never flattering -the recap, "see ya, Beyatch!" and so forth. The problem comes with she was in an interesting scene with Ace about Crystal -it was more to establish and craft Crystal's journey. |
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