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Trixiego	S17 Episode 2 - Solving Riddles	Lead	[-]
Posts: 15396 (09/26/08 04:34 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	Everybody is doing it! Remove this ad Title: She Obviously is Post-Op! CBS Website Clues Tension boils over as food runs dangerously low after some Castaways over-indulge in three meals a day. One Castaway is tossed around like a rag doll during a Reward Challenge. Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? One Castaway sets out to prove her strength on Exile Island. Will emotions caused by the recent death of a loved one prove to be an inspiration or a hindrance to her success? Per TV Guide Tension builds in one tribe when food starts to run low because of some teammates overeating. In the RC, one female player is roughed up so badly that it could cause her to be cast off. Last Edited By: Trixiego 09/30/08 08:47 AM. Edited 1 time.
Martrae		#1	[-]
Posts: 1298 (09/26/08 07:05 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Hmmm...I don't see either Crystal or Susie being tossed around. They're too solid. So a Fang IC win?
birdlady		#2	[-]
Posts: 1435 (09/26/08 07:24 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Rice-eating yellow tribe (Probably just excuse for open conflict between the Ace and Marcus factions.) Non-swanning Paloma (She's already set herself outside most of the tribe, for no good reason, so being small is just excuse. This could even up the red team's boot of their small light person.) Sugar (Clues are a girl's best friend!) Doesn't sound like a whole lot is up with the red tribe this week...
Kona		#3	[-]
Posts: 290 (09/26/08 07:28 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Trixiego wrote: Title: She Obviously is Post-Op! One Castaway is tossed around like a rag doll during a Reward Challenge. Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? One Castaway sets out to prove her strength on Exile Island. Will emotions caused by the recent death of a loved one prove to be an inspiration or a hindrance to her success? Either someone thinks Crystal is a transexual, or it's a referrence to Corinne's boob job per the EW video. Paloma, Sugar and Kelly are the three smallest Kota women left. Per her CBS bio, Sugar's dad recently died.
Trixiego		#4	[-]
Posts: 15398 (09/26/08 08:13 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	Martrae wrote: Hmmm...I don't see either Crystal or Susie being tossed around. They're too solid. So a Fang IC win? Fang RC win (says it is for Reward :-)) and yeah Fang will win since the Exiled one is Sugar since she lost her dad recently (as already noted) Sugar could be tossed around candidate also - Fang mentioned (Dan) they should have exiled a weak person and not him so if Sugar is exiled they may have determined she was the weakest :shrug
Martrae		#5	[-]
Posts: 1300 (09/26/08 08:38 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Well, I was referring to the "Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? " bit because she's in no danger if they don't lose, but it all equals out to be the same. Fang wins RC and IC (or a combo challenge). Sugar is exiled and potential bootee. And I agree....the ep title most likely refers to Crystal since she's so tall and kicked their asses at the challenge(s). I'm gonna guess it's Corinne that says it.
Trixiego		#6	[-]
Posts: 15400 (09/26/08 09:25 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	Martrae wrote: Well, I was referring to the "Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? " bit because she's in no danger if they don't lose, but it all equals out to be the same. Fang wins RC and IC (or a combo challenge). Sugar is exiled and potential bootee. And I agree....the ep title most likely refers to Crystal since she's so tall and kicked their asses at the challenge(s). I'm gonna guess it's Corinne that says it. Ah. Understood
Que		#7	[-]
Posts: 1180 (09/26/08 05:55 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Crystal since she's so tall and kicked their asses at the challenge(s). Um...she really sucked in hte running challenge..esp for an OLYMPIC athelet. The old Dude beat her to the top of the hill. She had to be pushed up with Granma, The "professional gammer" dude beat her. That was just embarrassing. (little skinny chick they voted out beat all thier asses) with all her pre-season interviews about how strong she is etc... I can see her quitting. The big muscley players never do well, they are used to having too many calories to keep those muscles! Anywho just stopped by to see my messers!!
craig		#8	[-]
Posts: 14047 (09/26/08 06:12 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	In probst's EW blog, he says that Sugar cries next week. That fits with her being exiled and maybe thrown around.
Martrae		#9	[-]
Posts: 1301 (09/26/08 06:29 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Que wrote: Crystal since she's so tall and kicked their asses at the challenge(s). Um...she really sucked in hte running challenge..esp for an OLYMPIC athelet. The old Dude beat her to the top of the hill. She had to be pushed up with Granma, The "professional gammer" dude beat her. That was just embarrassing. (little skinny chick they voted out beat all thier asses) with all her pre-season interviews about how strong she is etc... I can see her quitting. The big muscley players never do well, they are used to having too many calories to keep those muscles! Anywho just stopped by to see my messers!! I was referring to next week's challenges where apparently she kicks major booty.
kennethp21		#10	[-]
Posts: 3533 (09/26/08 11:44 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts	Everybody is doing it! Remove this ad Although Crystal's excuse was her shoes were too heavy and the dress she wore made it even harder, I think it's more of her strategy. She claimed to the others that she's a pre-school teacher, and it will be too surprising if she chose to outrun everybody. Plus, she already saw Gillian and Susie struggling, so she might as well just join in looking weak, I guess.
crocophile		#11	[-]
Posts: 10027 (09/27/08 05:00 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts	Que great to see you!....but my impression was she bagged the hill challenge. She didn't even sprint that hard. One Castaway is tossed around like a rag doll during a Reward Challenge. Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? The promo shows Paloma being rag dolled. A spoiler via *astroline* indicates she doesn't last long, Jeff indicated a few days in she seemed overwhelmed. Didn't she also complain about being cold ep 1? ..I don't know if her performance here gets her tossed but she has to be high on the chopping block in ep 2. The other two clues also are related to Kota. Seems like the action is mosly there, which probably means they lose member this week.
Ramona Balboa		#12	[-]
Posts: 2564 (09/27/08 07:09 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Wasn't it Paloma who was laughing at Ace, Marcus, Charlie, and the other one preparing for battle? If you laugh, wait for confessionals. Don't mock in camp where others hear you. Laughing at two Onions and the strength of the tribe is not going to get you a voting block. I think it's rag doll Paloma who is seen as a physical liability. Fang wants to send emotional weakness to EI, not necessarily physical.
CFmomma		#13	[-]
Posts: 3084 (09/27/08 08:11 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts	kennethp21 wrote: Although Crystal's excuse was her shoes were too heavy and the dress she wore made it even harder, I think it's more of her strategy. She claimed to the others that she's a pre-school teacher, and it will be too surprising if she chose to outrun everybody. Plus, she already saw Gillian and Susie struggling, so she might as well just join in looking weak, I guess. Nah, I think she just sucked running up hill when she is used to flat tracks with no other obstructions to impede her progress. The other tribe is just being catty because she is big, strong and physically imposing; not to mention she handed them their asses on a big ol platter in that challenge.
Trixiego		#14	[-]
Posts: 15405 (09/27/08 08:31 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish More Recent Posts	Paloma and Ace were practically set up as the rivals - wouldnt surprise me that they would be the boot and decoy boot. She dissed Ace to Charlie She laughed at his yoga They didn't go to TC so no real need to show that -
birdlady		#15	[-]
Posts: 1442 (09/27/08 11:03 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts	Yeah, my impression was that Crystal was really bad at the hill climbing aspect. Even if she's not in Olympic condition, I think she's plenty fit and has the leg strength, but it might indicate some lack of agility which may come into play in future challenges. She probably doesn't have much wrestling technique, either, but if someone else is restraining Ace's upper body to keep him from flopping around, I bet she can use her legs and weight to drag him along pretty well. In fairness to ragdoll Paloma, Crystal and Randy combined probably outweigh her 4 to 1 - Ace wouldn't really have that excuse. Did we ever see Bob commit to be number 5 in the onion alliance? I'm thinking the boot tension will be whether he goes along with them. Paloma could make sense in a "strengthen the tribe" strategy, but it would mean the onions can't be voted out. I think he is smart enough to do that math, and I get the impression that connections amongst the onions haven't really been hidden. (Similarly, Ace and Sugar seem pretty visibly connected. That could set Sugar up as the Mary-style boot, but perhaps exile does make her safer, as the onions want to avoid a possible immunity bounce? Crystal and Susie also are openly connected, although not as a couple; next time red tribe goes to tribal council, I don't think there's any way they'd get rid of Ms. Post-Op, but Susie may be a more desireable target because of her alliance, even if she is keeping herself valuable and unannoying around camp.)
Roadfinder		#16	[-]
Posts: 4383 (09/27/08 05:57 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Here's Jeff Probst's EW blog: http://popwatch.ew.com/po...8/09/jeff-probst-blo.html Interesting.
Dictatorship		#17	[-]
Posts: 4136 (09/27/08 06:07 PM) More Recent Posts	I just watched the video at Jeff's blog (and I bookmarked the blog!). Love Jeff's quote... "We'll put you on Big Brother, bitch!"
CFmomma		#18	[-]
Posts: 3087 (09/27/08 06:33 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	That was classic. I loved it. Jeff and his dimples, what's not to love eh!
Roadfinder		#19	[-]
Posts: 4385 (09/27/08 08:27 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts	Just saw the video. Probst to Dalton Ross: "I'll put you on Big Brother, bitch." One Castaway is tossed around like a rag doll during a Reward Challenge. Will her performance cause her tribe to toss this rag doll right out of Gabon? Paloma One Castaway sets out to prove her strength on Exile Island. Will emotions caused by the recent death of a loved one prove to be an inspiration or a hindrance to her success? Sugar From Jeff's Blog above, these stood out for me: "What were the people on the Fang tribe thinking? I am constantly amazed at the choices that get made on this show. Friday morning quarterbacking is easy to do on Survivor but some of the choices still make me scratch my head. It's not the last time they'll make questionable choices either." "But nobody can touch Corinne on the Bitch meter.... "In her favor, Corinne plays the game hard, she knows how important alliances are, and if she forms a good one she could be around for a while." "Sugar cries a lot. Just warning you. But I think you're going to like her. Maybe even root for her." "Marcus is getting a lot of love from everybody. They love his leadership, they love that he's a doctor, and they love how calm he is. He drove us nuts as producers because he was telling everybody to act rationally! What?! What are you doing? Quit ruining Survivor, dude. Marcus is waaaay too good for this game. He could easily win. Quite revealing.
Dictatorship		#20	[-]
Posts: 4141 (09/27/08 09:14 PM) More Recent Posts	Everybody is doing it! Remove this ad Interesting that Jeff would say that about Marcus when Marcus actually provides a lot of humor in confessionals and in everyday camp life. It's weird, especially considering that Jeff always loves "boring" people. Marcus MUST do something that Jeff doesn't like (votes out Matty I'm guessing), and Jeff wants an excuse to say that he's "ruining Survivor."

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