Fang is the dumbest tribe ever? Bullshit...look at Kota (and edgic)

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Kitty Pryde1		#21	[-]
Posts: 6048 (10/30/08 7:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	YemaGrl1988 wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Uh...what episode were YOU watching? They knew they had Randy in their pocket, and they knew that there was a potential for Dan to have the idol. Rather than doing what retard Fang has done for the past two episodes, they dealt with the idol head on. They split their votes between Dan and Susie in the event Dan/Susie voted together, so that the vote would be 3-2-2 and they could revote to take out Susie. It was brilliant. THAT is how you deal with the idol, Fang. But they still managed to fuck it up. Susie is a loose canon. All they have to do is explain that they were afraid Dan had the idol. It's not like Susie is any MORE isolated than she was before. Hell, odds are they can get Matty to jump ship to Kota.
Kitty Pryde1		#22	[-]
Posts: 6049 (10/30/08 7:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: from Kota's POV, Fang has voted out Jacquie, Kelly and Ace! (maybe they learned GC quit) Randy, Susie and Dan could have been telling Kota anything to stay alive. We can only say this because we see their dysfunction. Kota is not seeing this -and can only take what Randy and others are telling them. If we had confessionals about Randy or others saying they're only doing this to stay alive, we'd be calling the Onions so foolish. They know Fang voted out Jacquie, then voted out GC (one of their own), Kelly (who Kota hated anyway), and they had no idea who was the next boot. What they DID know is that Ace and Sugar were BOTH still around, despite all logic to the contrary.
Quiddity		#23	[-]
Posts: 3962 (10/30/08 7:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Uh...what episode were YOU watching? They knew they had Randy in their pocket, and they knew that there was a potential for Dan to have the idol. Rather than doing what retard Fang has done for the past two episodes, they dealt with the idol head on. They split their votes between Dan and Susie in the event Dan/Susie voted together, so that the vote would be 3-2-2 and they could revote to take out Susie. It was brilliant. THAT is how you deal with the idol, Fang. X. Kota played smartly. People are acting like they voted out an original Kota tonight. And as if Randy is gonna betray them (while it may happen, I can't see it happening anywhere in the next few votes). Fang was by far the dumber tribe tonight, yet again.
TheyHadFaces		#24	[-]
Posts: 4645 (10/30/08 7:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why are people saying it is 5-5 at merge? The original Kota will have 6. Whether they all want to vote together is another matter. Marcus and company would be smart though to lead Sugar along and tell her that they are taking out Fang one at a time. The potential for 5-5 at TC is high next week unless Kota can bring in either Sugar or Matty. If Fang lures Susie in, they only need one more to get out a Kota, probably Marcus. They will try to get Randy to go along, which is probably what induced his ego trip statement about being King of Gabon.
James Barber		#25	[-]
Posts: 14397 (10/30/08 7:29 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GrenadeJumper85 wrote: James Barber wrote: Why would Susie work with Ken or Crystal when she was never in an alliance with them? She's going to be near the bottom of either group, but she seemed closer to the people at Kota. Knowing some of the brain trusts at Fang, they'd probably try to get Susie booted first. Kota made a mistake in two of them voting for Susie at tonight's Tribal Council. She has a WAAY better chance of moving up within the ranks of a Fang alliance then she does with the Onion alliance that is pretty much impenetrable at this point. I don't think she has a great chance of moving up in Fang. They have few ties to her and with Crystal's instability, she could turn against Susie at any time and make her alliance go along. Susie could always go with the Onions/Randy/Bob and hope they will turn against each other later on. If they told her they were just trying to flush out the idol, she probably wouldn't turn against them, she doesn't have anywhere to go.
Kitty Pryde1		#26	[-]
Posts: 6052 (10/30/08 7:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Quiddity wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Uh...what episode were YOU watching? They knew they had Randy in their pocket, and they knew that there was a potential for Dan to have the idol. Rather than doing what retard Fang has done for the past two episodes, they dealt with the idol head on. They split their votes between Dan and Susie in the event Dan/Susie voted together, so that the vote would be 3-2-2 and they could revote to take out Susie. It was brilliant. THAT is how you deal with the idol, Fang. X. Kota played smartly. People are acting like they voted out an original Kota tonight. And as if Randy is gonna betray them (while it may happen, I can't see it happening anywhere in the next few votes). Fang was by far the dumber tribe tonight, yet again. BOTH tribes were brilliant tonight, except Matty. Matty has just been fucking stupid since last week.
Quiddity		#27	[-]
Posts: 3963 (10/30/08 7:29 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thailandsurvivor wrote: colleenlover wrote: Granted, Marcus has winner written all over him -but still the reality of this game when it was filmed, is they made bad moves. I still don't understand why everyone thinks that Marcus is the winner. I don't follow edgic or anything like that, but I know almost nothing about the guy. Arn't winners actually developed (especially in recent seasons)? Marcus is the somewhat young, likable but a tad dull, strong but not insanely over the top strong character that was 100% what Aras, Yul and Earl were. Those type of players get quite far in the game. I'd say that more than anything else is why he's getting all the winner support. :P We've got at least one edgic 'expert' in this thread, maybe they can explain better.
Vyvvi		#28	[-]
Posts: 1338 (10/30/08 7:31 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thailandsurvivor wrote: colleenlover wrote: Granted, Marcus has winner written all over him -but still the reality of this game when it was filmed, is they made bad moves. I still don't understand why everyone thinks that Marcus is the winner. I don't follow edgic or anything like that, but I know almost nothing about the guy. Arn't winners actually developed (especially in recent seasons)? It's all subtle hints. People who are visible, but not too over the top before the merge hits, and plus getting confessionals is a big thing, and when someone continously gets confessional for absolutley no reason (IE - Marcus) it makes it obvious.
Thailandsurvivor		#29	[-]
Posts: 2484 (10/30/08 7:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	James Barber wrote: Uh, her and Crystal have to have something (why else would Susie be picked third in the tribal draft?) Plus she's close with a guy named Matty who happens to be on Fang. Gillian picked Crystal and they disliked each other by the time Gillian left. I don't see Susie and Crystal being that close. Crystal seems like a huge burden to be around and that alliance also has no problem voting out its own. There's not much incentive to join them. Susie was with Dan, Matty, and Randy. Matty isn't that close to Ken and Crystal, and may join up with Randy and the Onions and Bob if they'll have him. I don't know where Susie would go, but I can see her going with Kota. Matty is close to Ken. Didn't you watch Kelly's boot?
colleenlover		#30	[-]
Posts: 8624 (10/30/08 7:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	four and four have gone Fang -Michelle, Gillian, GC, and Dan Kota -Paloma, Jacquie, Kelly and Ace
James Barber		#31	[-]
Posts: 14399 (10/30/08 7:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Matty is close to Ken. Didn't you watch Kelly's boot? They weren't aligned before the switch, then they stuck together for a few votes before Ken blindsided him. If Ken's strategy is to work with the weaker players (which it seems to be), he's not going to have any use for Matty.
Thailandsurvivor		#32	[-]
Posts: 2485 (10/30/08 7:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Quiddity wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Uh...what episode were YOU watching? They knew they had Randy in their pocket, and they knew that there was a potential for Dan to have the idol. Rather than doing what retard Fang has done for the past two episodes, they dealt with the idol head on. They split their votes between Dan and Susie in the event Dan/Susie voted together, so that the vote would be 3-2-2 and they could revote to take out Susie. It was brilliant. THAT is how you deal with the idol, Fang. X. Kota played smartly. People are acting like they voted out an original Kota tonight. And as if Randy is gonna betray them (while it may happen, I can't see it happening anywhere in the next few votes). Fang was by far the dumber tribe tonight, yet again. What's the point of giving Randy any power when they hold majority? There is a chance (a good one even) that Randy will have to swap especially if Susie does to avoid the purple rock also he was close with Dan and Susie, how did they know for sure that he wouldn't flip on them in the first place? Because he told them? Haha, yeah, right.
colleenlover		#33	[-]
Posts: 8625 (10/30/08 7:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm only talking about perceptions from each players. Yes, people on Fang have made really bad moves. But I'm talking about Onions on Kota from their OWN point of view -not having the luxury of us knowing who's said what to whom.
TheyHadFaces		#34	[-]
Posts: 4648 (10/30/08 7:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: four and four have gone Fang -Michelle, Gillian, GC, and Dan Kota -Paloma, Jacquie, Kelly and Ace Oops. For some reason I thought Susie was Kota originally. My bad.
sunflower101		#35	[-]
Posts: 3828 (10/30/08 7:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thailandsurvivor wrote: Why didn't Kota just tell Susie to get the fuck out of their tribe? Yeah, Dan could have had the idol, but they just outcasted another. Oh, and you don't trust Susie or Dan? Really? Then why give them the opportunity to join with Randy and send one of their own home by a 3-2-2 vote. And why the fuck havn't they been throwing challenges if they are scared of those two flipping at the merge? But thanks Corinne for giving Fang at least a tie at the first merge TC. I really appreciate it. The only way to 100 percent be safe is to have immunity. Susie isn't an immunity threat after the merge, and if they threw immunity to vote out Dan/Susie they would just have two more people from the other tribe to deal with after the merge.
Joaqenix		#36	[-]
Posts: 2646 (10/30/08 7:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GrenadeJumper85 wrote: I do hope Susie joins up with the left over Fangs at the merge, but I have a feeling Matty is going to fuck everything up and latch onto the dumbass Onion Alliance. this is my greatest fear, and I really think its gonna happen. ugggh
CSCin3D		#37	[-]
Posts: 9882 (10/30/08 7:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Joaqenix wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: I do hope Susie joins up with the left over Fangs at the merge, but I have a feeling Matty is going to fuck everything up and latch onto the dumbass Onion Alliance. this is my greatest fear, and I really think its gonna happen. ugggh me too, which would explain him being Jeff's favorite person this season
Burrito Taco		#38	[-]
Posts: 1401 (10/30/08 7:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CSCin3D wrote: Joaqenix wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: I do hope Susie joins up with the left over Fangs at the merge, but I have a feeling Matty is going to fuck everything up and latch onto the dumbass Onion Alliance. this is my greatest fear, and I really think its gonna happen. ugggh me too, which would explain him being Jeff's favorite person this season NOOOOO! And he is dumb enough to do it too.
Thailandsurvivor		#39	[-]
Posts: 2489 (10/30/08 7:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Joaqenix wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: I do hope Susie joins up with the left over Fangs at the merge, but I have a feeling Matty is going to fuck everything up and latch onto the dumbass Onion Alliance. this is my greatest fear, and I really think its gonna happen. ugggh It better not. It better not. I was worried before this episode that Matty was going to fuck over Crystal and Ken. I was right, but Ken WILL keep him in check. Add that to the fact that Susie will hopefully join Fang, and he would be a complete dumbass to flip. Then again, he already is a complete dumbass...crap. MATTY DON'T SCREW FANG OVER.
sunflower101		#40	[-]
Posts: 3829 (10/30/08 7:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	YemaGrl1988 wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Uh...what episode were YOU watching? They knew they had Randy in their pocket, and they knew that there was a potential for Dan to have the idol. Rather than doing what retard Fang has done for the past two episodes, they dealt with the idol head on. They split their votes between Dan and Susie in the event Dan/Susie voted together, so that the vote would be 3-2-2 and they could revote to take out Susie. It was brilliant. THAT is how you deal with the idol, Fang. But they still managed to fuck it up. Susie is a loose canon. That is true, but she also isn't an immunity threat after the merge either. Dan/Susie/Matty/Randy where all originally aligned on old Fang. Dan rejoining up with Matty in any alliance is a huge threat, because they are both huge immunity threats after the merge. Matty/Susie re-aligning is a lot less of a threat.

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