Marcus said in the spf interview that they made his relationship with charlie into a sideshow when they could have done alot of good with it - maybe show people that a str8 male and a gay male can be best friends!?!? He said charlie is one of this best friends and he had tons of good to say about charlie. I kinda wished they showed more of their relationship. The show has missed out on fully showing/exploring two gay guy/str8 guy friendships two seasons in a row now. First todd and frosti, now charlie and marcus!
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MARCUS: They made our relationship into a sideshow.
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Posts: 5187 (11/08/08 08:11 AM) |
Agreeance. I would've rather seen this interaction instead of boring crap like Splenda on Exile Island eating fruit.
Frosti is gae btw. |
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Posts: 1762 (11/08/08 08:38 AM) |
Dictatorship wrote: Wait, did frosti really come out or are you just speculating? I know alot of people have given frosti crap, but i dont think people really believed he was gay. |
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Posts: 1091 (11/08/08 08:41 AM) Registered user |
Agreeance. I would've rather seen this interaction instead of boring crap like Splenda on Exile Island eating fruit.I agree. I thought it was a really good thing that they had a friendship that seemed to go beyond a simple mutual respect (like Rudy and Richard in Borneo). Usually the only gay friends a straight guy has are his girlfriend's friends. It's always refreshing to see guys who overcome the hyper-masculinity American culture can throw at them and be friends with someone who is different than they are. In fact, those kinds of unexpected relationships are what made the early Survivor seasons so great. And I need proof that Frosti is gay. Todd's always said he was straight. |
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Posts: 16603 (11/08/08 09:11 AM) Registered user |
What about Silas and Brandon? John and the General? (Who was as macho as you can get)
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Posts: 7170 (11/08/08 09:38 AM) Registered User |
How about Rich/Rudy? He bitches about them exploiting a gay man/straight man relationship but the first season they showed Rudy making friends with a gay man,
even with his background.
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Posts: 1763 (11/08/08 10:25 AM) |
WylDawg wrote: Silas and brandon didnt have a close friendship like charlie/marcus and todd/frosti. Im pretty sure brandon and silas were friends throuhg lindsay and kim. If it wasnt for the girls being friends with both, i bet they wouldnt have been friends. John and the generals friendship i thought was through tammy?!!? Marcus/Charlie and Todd/Frosti had strong personal freindships that werent through other people. These friendships have continued on passed the game as well. Id be suprised if john and the general and silas and brandon have flown to eachothers cities and hung out for a week etc. |
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Posts: 106 (11/08/08 10:28 AM) |
He calls it a "relationship" tee hee
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Posts: 4352 (11/08/08 11:04 AM) Registered user |
mtj1282 wrote:1) Micronesia came between China and Gabon. 2) This relationship was explored over 8 years ago in the very first season. No way were they going to top Richard and Rudy. No sense in trying, especially when Marcus worked so much better as a non-sympathetic character. |
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Posts: 11260 (11/08/08 11:23 AM) Registered User |
I still dislike them but I have a lot of respect for Marcus when it comes to his friendship with Charlie. More straight guys should be like this.
Another interview: http://www.afterelton.com...vivor-gabon-marcus-lehman Dammit, Marcus. Stop trying to make me like you!
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Posts: 1764 (11/08/08 11:34 AM) |
Pulau Tiga wrote: 1. No shit, but there wasnt a gay guy/str8 guy friendship in micronesia so of this kind of relationship it has been two seasons in a row. 2. Eight years is a long time, and much has changed. There wasnt as much controversy about gay marriage and gay rights eight years ago. Also, they didnt explore it that much. There was never a heart to heart talk with rich and rudy about waht rich has gone trough. Rudy also wasnt as excepting and wasnt a young guy. Marcus,Charlie, Todd, Frosti are young guys. Times have changed and these young guys experineces are much differnet than rudys and richards. Therefore there as tons of angles the show could have gone with this. |
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Posts: 3243 (11/08/08 11:38 AM) Registered User |
Wait, does this mean Charlie wins? NOOOOOOOO!
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Posts: 1765 (11/08/08 11:45 AM) |
SPunKeeMonKee wrote:Wow, i have to agree. Due to people saying he was the obvious winner, i disliked him cause i thought it was going to be to predictable, but now after reading that, I would have loved him to be the winner. Such a nice geunine person. I wish they did the early show interviews etc so more of the general audience could see how great he is. |
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Posts: 417 (11/08/08 11:53 AM) |
on a side note--go read Marcus's interview at Reality News Online--he says things like "Dan is such a great guy...I think he's come so far and
grown so much" and other underhanded passive aggressive comments like "I think Ken is a wonderful person, and I just hope he learns to stop feeding
off of other's compassion--as a doctor, I see this a lot." and he also says things like "I don't know where the whole 'you're
arrogant' thing comes from...I honestly just try to be nice to everyone." WHAT A TOOL. He knows when he's being passive aggressive, and he simply
plays with words to make it seem like it was the editor's fault for making him look like a leader, and somewhat of a bully throughout the whole game. Once
again saying the "right" things in attempts to make himself look charming and like the golden boy. Damn, Dan was right when he said "Marcus
looks charming...ON PAPER" I mean, even Ace agreed with that.
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Posts: 4398 (11/08/08 11:57 AM) Registered User |
Charlie and Marcus campaigning to be on TAR? Nooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Posts: 1767 (11/08/08 12:00 PM) |
birdseyeview wrote: I bet marcus has read dans interviews and knows the shit-talking dan has done, so for marcus to still make postive comments about dan is evidence that he's a pretty nice guy. |
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Posts: 862 (11/08/08 12:01 PM) Registered User |
Honestly, man, Charlie didn't have a crush on me. We just hit it off right away. There was something about his demeanor and just the way he carried himself, that's what led me to pick him in the [first] place.Charlie's demeanor = semi-flaming fag. Ewww. Also, Marcus/Charlie wasn't a straight/gay friendship since Marcus is a closet-homo. sia. |
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Posts: 11261 (11/08/08 12:04 PM) Registered User |
No, he's still awful.. I do like how he handled being friends with Charlie but other than that, I don't see anything about him that would change my
mind. He is a petty, passive aggressive person who looks down on people and carries a holier-than-thou attitude, which is much worse than just being an
arrogant asshole who owns it (like Ace). Did you read his realityblurred interview? It's hilarious
The editing was spot-on and actually, I think they
went easy on him.
I bet marcus has read dans interviews and knows the shit-talking dan has done, so for marcus to still make postive comments about dan is evidence that he's a pretty nice guy. Nope, he's just trying to do some damage-control to counteract how the show portrayed him.. and he's failing miserably. His comments about Dan are so condescending.
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Posts: 418 (11/08/08 12:07 PM) |
mtj1282 wrote: Dan can talk all the shit he wants about Marcus because he's seen his true colors in the way that Marcus places himself one rung above everyone else on the social latter, and acts as though he doesn't realize it, yet it is obvious through his choice of words. And of course Marcus won't bad mouth Dan--if he did, he wouldn't come off like the charming, Captain America that half of the viewers blindly see him as. |
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Posts: 5784 (11/08/08 12:40 PM) Registered User |
OMG Marcus is so fucking bitter. Read his RNO interview, what a whiny bitch! I'm so glad he's gone. He's a retard.
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