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Seahawketti		#21	[-]
Posts: 1033 (11/26/08 12:38 PM) Thinks Jay Leno is funny Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Teachers are paid ok. In wa state the average teacher makes $56,000 a year, and starting teachers make something like $35,000 a year. Obvioulsy it's not a doctor's salary, but it's ok, especially considering you get all holidays, weekends, and summers off.
BobbyBrown06		#22	[-]
Posts: 9716 (11/26/08 1:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I say 2. get yo money girl.
StarringAmy		#23	[-]
Posts: 6040 (11/26/08 1:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh my. I'm sorry Lauren! My job can be replaced by machines. We have one for the checkout desk portion of my job but it never works and we always work! Well not really, I am sick now and so I am broken. I don't know much about this school stuff, just find a job that makes you happy and good luck! :)
AmaiLover		#24	[-]
Posts: 40 (11/26/08 1:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Strip. It pays the bills
sadllama		#25	[-]
Posts: 3636 (11/26/08 2:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pretty much anything less than an MBA won't get a decent job these days, and with the economy even that isn't certain. You should probably just go back to retail, hope to work your way up to a management position, and work yourself into complacency for the rest of your life. or become a stripper.
GlamsSlam		#26	[-]
Posts: 3261 (11/26/08 2:06 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Seahawketti wrote: I'd do the education thing. But work part time as well. I bet teachers rarely get laid off. Apparently you did not see the local papers .. 6 schools closing some being merged into others.. Teachers do get laid off and what they do is bump the untenured ones out and put the fucked up senior ones in their place. The joke being that the schools they close are underperforming guaranteeing that the teachers are also underperforming so its trickle down stupidity.. YAY for education... not a great job. Trust me.
sadllama		#27	[-]
Posts: 3637 (11/26/08 2:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	on a completely assholish note, it is pretty satisfying to watch all the sororistitutes who went to college to get drunk and find a husband and "majored" in psychology to make it look legit are now realizing that they're shit out of luck.
Viking Pete		#28	[-]
Posts: 977 (11/26/08 2:11 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LaurenTheLush wrote: So I was just informed today that I will be getting laid off right before Christmas, because they are merging my job with someone elses, and that someone else has been at my place of employment longer than I have so I am getting the boot (zomg Happy Thanksgiving Lauren!). I knew this was coming as rumors/talk spread like wildfire and took the liberty of reapplying/submitting my admission application to my alma mater. The reason I did this was because I have my bachelors in psychology and there is really nothing I can do with that that isn't sublimely mediocre. My plan was to get a second bachelors in elementary education, and with my previous credits will only take 3 semesters to complete. I could go to grad school for psych, but lets face it, I'm not that smart. So what do I do...... 1. Take the pay cut, go back to my retail job part time while attending classes to get my second bachelors. OR 2. Just look for another full-time w/ benefits job. I cannot decide. my step mother had this and she got a job with social services. decent pay, great benefits and a super pension. job's a grind, but what job isn't. good luck!
Lost Shaker of NaCl		#29	[-]
Posts: 1286 (11/26/08 2:11 PM) I'm demanding Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Job security is excellente in teaching. Only person I ever saw get fired was carried out to rehab as they cleaned out the vodka bottles from her desk, file cabinet, the bathroom, empty lockers, yadda yadda Lesson to be learned: pour vodka into disposable coffee cup with lid and don't bring bottle into school Oh, and I have a triple bachelors in special ed with a minor in early childhood, and two psych masters. Go for the school psych degree - all you do is test a kid's IQ, hold a parent meeting to tell parents if the kid qualifies for special services, and then hide in your office the rest of the time. Psych's get paid more $ and work a regular school year. Way less stress than disciplining a classroom full of kids, too.
GlamsSlam		#30	[-]
Posts: 3262 (11/26/08 2:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Education is a joke but where the fuck is that gig? Shit sign me up.... Must work for one of those "whitey" districts.
Monsieur Muggles		#31	[-]
Posts: 5582 (11/26/08 2:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sadllama wrote: Pretty much anything less than an MBA won't get a decent job these days, and with the economy even that isn't certain. You should probably just go back to retail, hope to work your way up to a management position, and work yourself into complacency for the rest of your life. You have got to be kidding. Going to BizSchool now is probably the WORST thing anyone can do. Unless you're planning to go into green biz or have a really novel idea and can convince investors to fund you, people with MBAs are NOT getting hired right now, especially in the financial sector. Almost any other professional school is better than business at the moment. Lauren, having done the full-time job/full-time student thing before, I highly recommend against it. It's by far super difficult to manage, and while your job may allow you to continue your studies with a flexible schedule, they don't have to keep you on if you have an erratic schedule or need to move deadlines around. If your school allows you to enroll mid-year, then by all means go back to school in January. Good luck finding loan funding, though. Otherwise, its probably best to go back to the mall come the new year and force yourself to find a new full-time job. Does your alma mater have a career center or something similar which will connect you with employers? That could also be a great starting point.
B DeBrun		#32	[-]
Posts: 18713 (11/26/08 2:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LaurenTheLush wrote: ohboy wrote: i don't understand spending any money to get a second bachelor's. when i left work to go back to school, i jumped into a grad program in a different area. trust me, you don't have to be a genius to get a master's. but do you need a degree in education in order to teach? if that's the goal, can't you go for certification instead of another bachelor's? in the meantime, you could do retail and be available for substitute teaching, or whatever teachers-in-training do. In New Jersey, you need a bachelors in education to teach OR a bachelors in any field and a masters in education. and Eury, wouldn't my ugly sweater fit in wonderfully in the teaching field? 30 credits to teach hs 15 to teach k-8 in the field of your study are all you need before going into masters Check out MSU Prudential Scholar program. Tuition paid for... 2 quibbles: you need math or science and like the army, you serve a 3 year hitch in JC/Newark
LaurenTheLush		#33	[-]
Posts: 2873 (11/26/08 2:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sadllama wrote: on a completely assholish note, it is pretty satisfying to watch all the sororistitutes who went to college to get drunk and find a husband and "majored" in psychology to make it look legit are now realizing that they're shit out of luck. I wasn't in a sorority. And I need to correct myself ohboy...I stated before that you need a bachelors in education or a bachelors in anything with a masters in education to get a teaching job in NJ. I talked to my friend who is a teacher and I was wrong, you do need to complete just the teacher certification program. I was confused because if I do take this teaching certification program at the college I graduated from, then I will get my bachelors in education anyway, since I have already previously completed all my other requirements for graduation. (At my college all education majors MUST major in something else as well, thus psycholoy would be my shared major and I'd just get a second degree).
ohboy		#34	[-]
Posts: 2740 (11/26/08 2:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	there you go. you'll be ms. lush, the hawt teacher, in no time at all. it's not a great time to be looking for a new job, so realistically, it's likely you're not giving up some great opportunities to go back to school right now, and it sounds like something you want to do. so the timing seems good. hopefully you have some severance to help pay the rent while you're back in school. i'd also look at using up whatever unemployment benefits are available, if you're allowed to get those while being a student. you paid into the program, so may as well get some of it back.
LaurenTheLush		#35	[-]
Posts: 2875 (11/26/08 2:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I live at home still. I know, I know, I'm 25 but whatever it leaves me less worrying about covering rent/mortgage.
Angela in WI		#36	[-]
Posts: 25268 (11/26/08 2:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'LL THINK ABOUT YOU WHEN I'M ROLLING IN THE MAD PIZZA DOUGH!
StarringAmy		#37	[-]
Posts: 6041 (11/26/08 3:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LaurenTheLush wrote: I live at home still. I know, I know, I'm 25 but whatever it leaves me less worrying about covering rent/mortgage. That's pretty common this day in age, so I wouldn't worry about it. People older than you who make more money than you do can hardly afford to live on their own (at least over here).
Sunnie		#38	[-]
Posts: 68 (11/26/08 4:43 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Just what this country needs...another new teacher with shitty grammar.
StarringAmy		#39	[-]
Posts: 6043 (11/26/08 4:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There was this special ed teacher in high school who was an ex-football coach and he would sit back and read the sports page and not teach the kids at all... the whole class period the students would just fool around. And that is like that with most special ed classes I think. My special ed teacher in high school tried to teach us, and my crush at the time was humping a chair and my teacher was like "stop", but see we arnt used to learning.
hatebrigade		#40	[-]
Posts: 2860 (11/26/08 4:58 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If you aren't sure you have any passion for teaching, don't. You might love kids, but that doesn't mean you can adequately teach them. The last thing the world needs is more shitty teachers.

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