swim4life227 wrote:Really? You think all of Joan and Melissa's bitching is making them out to be more favorable? I just wanted Melissa to shut up last night. They seem to be overdramatic about everything and Annie seems to be taking everything in stride. I guess it's about perspective.
^ After last night, you might want to retrack that. The thing is, they are showing so much shit about Annie that they don't have to, and they are making the Rivers out to be the more favorable ones.
I know Piers had a bad edit last year, but compared to his rival Omarosa, he was made out to be the hero.
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Posts: 9199 (04/13/09 2:48 PM) Registered User |
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Posts: 6608 (04/13/09 2:51 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Let me see getting compared to Hitler, saying you are going to buy the victory, and being shown as a two face snake, yeah I definatelty think that's less
favorable than bitching about Annie being two faced and overbearing. Don't you?
I'm not saying that makes them more favorable as the others. However, with the spoilers and how the plot is unfolding, it looks like we are headed down to a Rivers vs Annie showdown. It's probably Melissa based on the spoiler and that she's has the story arc of "the right hand woman trying to break away from her mother, I'd say she wins. There is still time left and the edit can change. BTW, I'm wondering if the spoiler of "Annie calling everyone under the sun" is from this episode or in the final 2? I think even if she loses, she'll stay because she raised enough money and Jesse didn't.
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Posts: 1720 (04/13/09 3:19 PM) |
Joan was more of a bratty little kid last night - calling out Annie for throwing melissa under the bus when she didn't, throwing the glass, taking her
luggage into the hallway cuz she didn't want to be in a room with 'the snake' - oh yeah - that's a stellar edit.
After last night, it's hard to say who is F2...Piers was a Grade A Prick, but he was that way from day 1 and never lied about who he was. Annie being two-faced girly girl really annoyed me. At this point I want Natalie to win.
ETA: Annie could still win this thing - there's has to be some conflict/doubt with F1....Melissa has shown she deserves to be in the F2 - we'll have to see which bitch takes it. Melissa' spoiled brat rich kid played out from the beginning, whereas last night was the first negative we've heard about Annie.
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Posts: 9201 (04/13/09 3:35 PM) Registered User |
I think it'll also be interesting to see where everyone else falls. While Annie has been called a lot of negative things, it has mostly been by Joan and
Melissa. Obviously, if that's the battle, words will probably fly between both sides (though we've yet to really see Annie go on the offensive in
terms of comments, especially during confessionals). I think a lot will be told if we hear what others say (while still there) about certain issues pertaining
to Annie and Melissa/Joan (or, at the very least, what the producers show us).
And, swim, I think it's all about perspective. If it's Joan and Melissa calling Annie all of these things and someone sees Joan and Melissa as acting immature, bratty, etc, those comments will have less weight in terms of looking favorable. It could easily be seen as them being overly antagonistic. |
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Posts: 6612 (04/13/09 3:42 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Annie's conflict is with them so why would they show anyone else commenting on it? The thing with editing, they DO NOT have to show the comments people
are making about her. It's not like these comments these digs at her are making her look like the ganged upon victim, they are backed up by her actions and
comments she makes (also, next week Ivanka backs it up).
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Posts: 67 (04/13/09 3:51 PM) Registered user |
I think we all can safely assume that Joan's "I'd so take the bullet" comment, seen during previews, was for Melissa. I also think Joan gets
eliminated next week judging from the extra screen time next week's firee will get, since we already saw some of the episode this week. That kind of grand
exit would suit Joan if that makes any sense.
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Posts: 6615 (04/13/09 3:58 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Joan obviously has to go some time, but I don't think the extra airtime mean's she does. Vinny's boot got 2 hours (and last season it was just an hour) and Omarosa's epic boot only got one. Length of the episode probably doesn't factor. It's probably longer because this is the climax of the season: Annie vs Joan. |
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Posts: 2749 (04/13/09 4:04 PM) |
I say Annie should win since she defended herself. Melissa had to have mommy defend her several times.
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sirkaliber |
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Posts: 68 (04/15/09 1:30 PM) Registered user |
Rumors are circulating that Natalie's plan to bring in Annie's rival to bid against her backfires big time and Annie winds up winning. If that
happens, Natalie is so toast. There's no way Trump will fire anyone on KOTU over her. She's lucky she lasted as long as she did, being one of the
lesser known celebs.
And if Athena were to lose, Jesse would be the logical one fired, but Annie just hinted in her blog that he's a strong player and doesn't look likely to go anytime soon. So KOTU loses. |
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Posts: 163 (04/15/09 3:33 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!!
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I just read Annie's blog after hearing comments about it and it seems like they win. I'm glad. But at this point I pretty much like all of them.
The only thing that I'm suspicious over is that maybe she's playing with our heads so we think they win but they don't. Guess we'll find out Sunday :) |
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Posts: 2173 (04/15/09 3:57 PM) |
If KOTU losses I would think Joan would go next. I can see Trump saying Joan is taking the game a little too personal. Go on a blah blah blah about personal
feelings and then bring up Joan questioning his firing of Khloe and saying it was disrespectful.
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Posts: 464 (04/16/09 4:46 AM) |
When Trump finally fires Joan, you can bet he sucks her butt before he does it. I can't see him ever saying anything bad about her without following
quickly with the "I love you" or "You're amazing" crap and donating a billion dollars to her charity.
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Posts: 16570 (04/16/09 10:17 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish |
I automatically just assumed that Kotu loses but Natalie would get axed. The whole "picking jewelery" situation seems like that is going to be one
of the "reasons" they lost. On the flip side though, why Joan would ever send Natalie to pick jewelery when Joan has her own company completely
involved in that was just ridiculous and Trump could call her on that but I don't think Trump would get rid of her regarding her behavior; he knows that
makes for great television
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Posts: 1729 (04/17/09 5:05 AM) |
Trixie - I agree, but if Joan goes the team will consist of Hershell, Clint and Natalie - O.M.G.
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Posts: 4069 (04/20/09 2:58 AM) Registered user |
So right about now Im thinking all those scenes of joan yelling at Annie and Brandee is right after her firing and right before she walks out.
Seems like a "I'm gunna call everyone out on their bullshit" kinda thing. One thing I know for sure is that a the end of the day Trump will either say Annie is the best player ever for doing her best sneakiness to get to the top or the worst for making a charity competition so evil. One big thing to use against her is that if Phil Helmuth didn't end up donating to her then she fucked the charities out of a lot of money from the richest guy any of them know (Besides Joan) If Joan survives (which I hope she does) I hope she calls howard stern. They're friends and he would donate at least some of the 100 million he makes a year. |
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anders332 |
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Posts: 1732 (04/20/09 7:58 AM) |
Soo was it Howard Stern that Donald and Joan were talking about that they both know who would donate big?
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Posts: 3248 (04/21/09 10:12 PM) Registered User |
Does anyone think Melissa could be misdirection and Joan is indeed the Rivers in the F2? I just see a bigger ratings showdown with Joan vs. Annie than Melissa
vs. Annie. Trump has defended Joan through and through, and Annie's edit is two-sided and dishonest, while the Rivers, at least, have been consistent,
albeit bitchy. I would not be surprised if the final four were Joan, Melissa, Annie, and Brande.
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Art NL |
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Posts: 249 (04/22/09 1:57 AM) Registered User |
codayoda1221 wrote:I think that's our final four too. Jesse probably goes to Kotu next episode and Kotu loses the next two tasks, so Clint and Jesse are fired (I don't think Trump would fire Joan). The final four are all women. Trump may fire Brande next because he wants to see the Rivers vs. Annie. After that, if the spoilers are true, I guess an emotional Joan quits in the final three because she doesn't want to face Annie any longer or wants to save her daughter, or is fired because she makes some huge stupid mistake in a task (which I doubt, I don't think Trump would fire Joan for anything as she'd make better ratings than Melissa would), leading to a Annie vs. Melissa final two. If that's the final two, I think Annie will win. In the last episode, Melissa even said that Annie was an amazing game player. Annie was working on the task, while Melissa was crying because she wasn´t BFF with Brande. |
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JoeJoeJunior |
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Posts: 2526 (04/22/09 10:16 AM) Registered User |
If Trump does fire Joan (as opposed to her "resigning" for the sake of her daughter) I would not be surprised if it comes back to one of two things -
Joan questioning Trump regarding his firing of Khloe (since they showed both Joan & Annie bitching about it in confessionals, yet made a point of showing
Joan questioning him to his face while Annie kept her mouth shut) or more likely the moment from this past episode where Joan told Ivanka that she would quit
if Melissa were thrown under the bus, and we saw Ivanka respond with that line about how if she were thrown under the bus, her father would be disappointed in
her for allowing herself to be put in the path of that bus...or something like that.
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Posts: 191 (04/23/09 12:44 AM) |
The person who spoiled the Annie-Melissa final 2 also stated that Annie wins. If you buy the final 2 spoiler itself, there's no reason to doubt the final
outcome. Annie wins. Period.
She's a raging bitch, but she wins. |
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