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GlobalCroc		#21	[-]
Posts: 475 (12/13/08 5:55 AM) aka crocophile MESS Moderator More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Anyways, is this telling us that firestarter Susie does make the finals?* And maybe someone ingenious enough to incinerate the whole camp at once is there too.
ratsnsnakes		#22	[-]
Posts: 783 (12/13/08 11:51 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Nevermind. Last Edited By: ratsnsnakes 12/13/08 2:23 PM. Edited 2 times.
tessa2		#23	[-]
Posts: 26 (12/13/08 3:00 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Orangeena wrote: VG's name for this season was the "S" files, which now looks like the "S" simply stood for Sugar. That she was going to be such a dominant presence/player in this game may be was VG was referring to. It certainly seems that way tonight... HOWEVER, Sugar quitting...well that would fit the "outrageous decision." But it could have something to do with the car... I think Jeff has mentioned the car challenge being moved like the placement of the rest of the usual turning points of the game were moved. So now it looks like that maze challenge, which certainly is a Sucha in size - all that running...Only the three men have the chance of winning that which is endurance...Unless Sugar turns out to be a racing demon and wins immunity, then gives it away... If Ole Onion Bob DOES make the final three he wins... Although Corrine has all put said that she gets to confront Sugar...but she could've been misdirecting and she confronts her AT THE PONDEROSA. Sugar quitting at the F5 would really throw things off...and typically she made all of her decisions at the last minute, just before TC, Corrine said... All the Onions seemed so bitter...All could've been misdirecting. The only remaining person who might lead to this bitterness would be Susie winning.And since we have never seen her virtually at all in this entire season a Susie win would end the franchise... Maybe somebody wins the car at the maze challenge, and there's some "outrageous decision" involved in that they get to CHOOSE the car, or to continue in the game...and somebody chooses the car... Sugar was on her way to getting married. Matty is a trust fund baby. Everybody in Maine has cars. Would the car coveter be Susie? Or Kenny? And the last challenge is endurance always and they never show you what it is beforehand. Hence their letting us see so much of the maze(and the Dream Teamers going through it, people). The Onions bitterness....They ALL felt the same way about the end...Unless they were all acting...But maybe they were...If Susie or Sugar won they'd be bitter...But not so much Matty, and certainly not Bob and maybe not Kenny... Jeff has hinted in his blog over and over that Kenny gets his come-uppance. He's out at five? This is what I have a problem with! They (mainly Corinne) seemed happy not pissy that 1. Bob had II and did not give it away. 2. That Sugar gave the HII to Matty Corrine even celbrated the fact at TC. Something is up here, IMO. Seems like we are now being misdericeted by Ponderosa. Maybe they don't (excluding Randy) hate Sugar...and Matty as much as they want us to think. If you go back and watch it seems like the jury liked the way TC went and then at Ponderosa and interviews act the opposite?
missyae		#24	[-]
Posts: 57 (12/13/08 5:56 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If they don\'t hate Sugar they have gotten really detailed about hiding it. Even with not having her as a friend on their myspace pages. Not even Matty has her as one of his top friends at myspace. Also Sugar put out bulletins at myspace making fun of Randy and the cookies, even after the show aired. If they really were pulling the wool over everyone, would she go that far as to continue little things like that? I know someone who messages back and forth with both of them and they have told me that neither of them will talk about the other one to him. They talk about general stuff but not each other, meaning Matty and Sugar.
missyae		#25	[-]
Posts: 58 (12/13/08 5:58 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Edited to delete the double posting. Sorry guys, dont know how that happened. Last Edited By: missyae 12/13/08 6:02 PM. Edited 2 times.
Kirblar		#26	[-]
Posts: 7098 (12/13/08 6:01 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I know someone who messages back and forth with both of them and they have told me that neither of them will talk about the other one to him. They talk about general stuff but not each other, meaning Matty and Sugar. Very interesting. Thanks for the insight. My personal gues would be that Sugar votes Matty out when she could save him (or give him a firemaking tiebreaker.)
Apple6666		#27	[-]
Posts: 662 (12/13/08 6:08 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kir it could at the final it is M/S/B/S and it is a tie between susie and Matty.
crocophile		#28	[-]
Posts: 10418 (12/14/08 3:15 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think they'd avoid a tie at the expense of an alliance...that is what what Jenna L did in ASS. Matty and Susie are the tightest of all the remaining contestants IMO. As pointed out above, the Onions were very rude to Crystal at the Ponderosa...with this kind of grudge they aren't voting for Kenny or Susie. Didn't Corinne say they ignored the next arrival as well? It's gotta be either Kenny or Susie. I doubt they ignore Bob or Matty.
urrout		#29	[-]
Posts: 1811 (12/14/08 7:51 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	According to Matty in a secret scene, I think, everyone likes Kenny and he never said anything bad about anybody. Unless Corrine found out Kenny's real plan during TC questions and we were not shown, she would have no problem with Kenny. We have never seen Randy have any problem with Kenny. Charlie said something in interviews about Kenny that made it seem he had no problem with Kenny until after seeing the show. Bob and his fake idol, Matty not choosing to go with Randy and Corrine, Kenny may be the only one that the jury would not ignore unless they simply ignored him because he hung out with Crystal.
birdlady		#30	[-]
Posts: 2069 (12/14/08 7:54 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Matty thinks he and Sugar are a lot tighter than Sugar does. I think the onions could see their way around to voting for Susie, if the other finalists were anyone other than Bob. I think they could picture themselves as dispensing largesse, and identify her as the most "deserving", not for her gameplay, but for her real life situation. Anways, speaking of riddles, could the "shocking turn of events" be the previous tribal council? And, did we ever get the straight scoop on Matty's real life background? I swear I read "educational trust fund", which would be consistent with what he told us about his parents in his audition tape, and is a nice amount of money. But it's not something Onassis-sized.
crocophile		#31	[-]
Posts: 10421 (12/14/08 8:27 AM) MESS Moderator More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That must secret scene with Matty have been before he and Crystal went off on Kenny. I take it, that was in a prior ep, because essentially this week he essentially says he sees through Kenny's BS. We already know he bad mouthed Marcus, and made a crude remark regarding Charlie's sexual orientation. I agree re Matty thinking he's tighter with Sugar. But before C/K humiliated Matty she did tell him she was stiucking with C/K. Last Edited By: crocophile 12/14/08 8:31 AM. Edited 1 times.
urrout		#32	[-]
Posts: 1816 (12/14/08 8:49 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yes it was in this weeks insider videos which means up until this week everyone was fooled by Kenny according to Matty. Everyone except Matty of course.
missyae		#33	[-]
Posts: 60 (12/14/08 2:20 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Matty has already gone through his trustfund and wasted all the money. His grandfather is actor James Whitmore and his grandmother was Mrs. Roper on Threes Company.
sunflower101		#34	[-]
Posts: 4169 (12/14/08 3:53 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: According to Matty in a secret scene, I think, everyone likes Kenny and he never said anything bad about anybody. Unless Corrine found out Kenny's real plan during TC questions and we were not shown, she would have no problem with Kenny. We have never seen Randy have any problem with Kenny. Charlie said something in interviews about Kenny that made it seem he had no problem with Kenny until after seeing the show. Bob and his fake idol, Matty not choosing to go with Randy and Corrine, Kenny may be the only one that the jury would not ignore unless they simply ignored him because he hung out with Crystal. Crystal said in an interview that Marcus holds Kenny responsible for his boot.
urrout		#35	[-]
Posts: 1826 (12/14/08 4:01 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But we don't know when she found that out. Could have been through jury questions.

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