Survivor Sucks All-Seasons Popularity Poll

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Katy Carney		#1421	[-]
Posts: 3339 (01/11/09 1:47 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thailandsurvivor wrote: The difference is that people still run around preaching about how Micronesia is the greatest season of all time. Even though I thought Gabon was a much better season and a return to the early season editing, most people at Sucks didn't give Gabon the credit it should have been. I don't think Bob deserves to be ranked that high or anything, but Micronesia is well liked in addition to having returning players. Of course, people are going to rate it high originally. ...so the difference is Micronesia is liked while Gabon isn't as liked? Well...yeah, I agree that could cause Micronesia to do better in a popularity poll
dragoondaniel78		#1422	[-]
Posts: 2042 (01/11/09 1:48 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: The difference is that people still run around preaching about how Micronesia is the greatest season of all time. Even though I thought Gabon was a much better season and a return to the early season editing, most people at Sucks didn't give Gabon the credit it should have been. I don't think Bob deserves to be ranked that high or anything, but Micronesia is well liked in addition to having returning players. Of course, people are going to rate it high originally. ...so the difference is Micronesia is liked while Gabon isn't as liked? Well...yeah, I agree that could cause Micronesia to do better in a popularity poll Well, it didn't quite work out for Pearl Islands, which I think is gonna be one of the lowest-ranked season in this poll.
panurge46		#1423	[-]
Posts: 1224 (01/11/09 1:48 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	dragoondaniel78 wrote: First; this is a POPULARITY POLL, so different people use different yardsticks to gauge how much they wanna give a certain castaway... You have your own way of doing it and others have their own way as well. So why are you imposing your method on others when others have not done so to you? Second; there aren't 13 million Sucksters unfortunately and this is a Survivor Sucks Popularity Poll. 100 voters is definitely enough to symbolise a majority of opinions here and it would have been a larger group but sadly, SurveyMonkey has a 100-response limit. So live with it. Please try to follow: Kishuu called Crystal a Goddess. Crystal, a has-been Olympian who went on a TV program where she failed miserably; a Goddess????? I called him a fanatic. He responded by saying I was also a fanatic for other players. I didn't impose my view but explained it. Kishuu added that Crystal was the favorite of a "Huge Majority". No qualifications such as a huge majority of posters who had nothing to do on Christmas Eve or a huge majority of posters who salivate at seeing a tough broad speak up. Just a "Huge Majority". Well, there was another poll that told us a majority of voters prefered Bob. I'm pretty sure Sprint had more than 100 voters or they'd be stupid to continue their sponsorship. Guess which poll means more. Live with that.
Katy Carney		#1424	[-]
Posts: 3340 (01/11/09 1:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: The weirdest thing about this poll is how well Jonathan, Shane, and Randy are doing relative to CR's poll and other polls I've seen in clubs. Jonathan (both versions) shouldn't be beating Candice and Yul for S13 and Parvati for S16. Shane shouldn't be such a strong 2nd for S12, and Randy should be dozens of places ahead of his Kota allies and doing so well in the face of Kota hate. It's likely the 3 appeal to the some fans more of less, who were unusually respresented this time. Based on this I'd expect Eliza to handily best J's nemesis Cirie for S16. The "grumpy/sarcastic older gentlemen" fans are among the most devout fan group in Sucks. I expect Jonathan (their leader) to beat Eliza. Cirie, however, is actually amazing IN ADDITION to getting the "minority woman" votes and the "non-fit woman" votes. She's the center of a Venn diagram of fandom. Actual good player + heavy minority favoritism + realistic body = unstoppable
dragoondaniel78		#1425	[-]
Posts: 2043 (01/11/09 1:54 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	panurge46 wrote: dragoondaniel78 wrote: First; this is a POPULARITY POLL, so different people use different yardsticks to gauge how much they wanna give a certain castaway... You have your own way of doing it and others have their own way as well. So why are you imposing your method on others when others have not done so to you? Second; there aren't 13 million Sucksters unfortunately and this is a Survivor Sucks Popularity Poll. 100 voters is definitely enough to symbolise a majority of opinions here and it would have been a larger group but sadly, SurveyMonkey has a 100-response limit. So live with it. Please try to follow: Kishuu called Crystal a Goddess. Crystal, a has-been Olympian who went on a TV program where she failed miserably; a Goddess????? I called him a fanatic. He responded by saying I was also a fanatic for other players. I didn't impose my view but explained it. Kishuu added that Crystal was the favorite of a "Huge Majority". No qualifications such as a huge majority of posters who had nothing to do on Christmas Eve or a huge majority of posters who salivate at seeing a tough broad speak up. Just a "Huge Majority". Well, there was another poll that told us a majority of voters prefered Bob. I'm pretty sure Sprint had more than 100 voters or they'd be stupid to continue their sponsorship. Guess which poll means more. Live with that. huge majority of sucks. -.-
Thailandsurvivor		#1426	[-]
Posts: 4434 (01/11/09 1:59 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: The difference is that people still run around preaching about how Micronesia is the greatest season of all time. Even though I thought Gabon was a much better season and a return to the early season editing, most people at Sucks didn't give Gabon the credit it should have been. I don't think Bob deserves to be ranked that high or anything, but Micronesia is well liked in addition to having returning players. Of course, people are going to rate it high originally. ...so the difference is Micronesia is liked while Gabon isn't as liked? Well...yeah, I agree that could cause Micronesia to do better in a popularity poll No, I'm saying the main reason it's so well liked is because it's recent. In a year or two, the popularity will die down when people realize it's no where near as good as they thought it was on rewatch.
Katy Carney		#1427	[-]
Posts: 3341 (01/11/09 2:02 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But you just said Gabon didn't get the same reception because it wasn't as liked. So recent = popular except for in the cases where the season is recent but isn't popular...? That sounds like quite a hypothesis. You should run with it.
craig		#1428	[-]
Posts: 14695 (01/11/09 2:17 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gabon's greatest asset was being completely unspoiled, even by edgic. But most of it's major characters came to end that left a bad taste in your mouth. Kota was hidden because they won so much, then got screwed and became bitter. Fang got a negative loser edit for the first half and then messed up in the end, with Crystal going almost UTR and Kenny going out like a bitch. People even soured on Sugar after they read her interviews. It was a nasty season with a UTR winners. just like Guatemala. It gave us a Ulonging plus the unfairness of the winning tribe getting pagoned. The gameplay onl;y got interesting at F6 because of Sugar, and she wasn't playing to win. On the other hand, Micronesia had amazing gameplay and it left fans of the F4 + Eliza feeling good about their faves. It showed that the ASS concept can make a successful season. Last Edited By: craig 01/11/09 2:24 AM. Edited 2 times.
Kitty Pryde1		#1429	[-]
Posts: 8246 (01/11/09 2:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: Gabon's greatest asset was being completely unspoiled, even by edgic. But most major characters came to end that left a bad taste in your mouth. Kota was hidden because they won so much then got screwed and became bitter. Fang got a negative loser edit for the first half and then messed up in the end, with Crystal going almost UTR near the end, Kenny going out like a bitch, and people souring on Sugar after they read her interviews. A nasty season with a UTR winners. just like Guatemala. Micronesia had amazing gameplay and left fans of the F4 + Eliza feeling good about their faves. The only major character that got to the end that left a bad taste in MY mouth was Matty. Other than that, all the horrible, bitchy players went out early.
Thailandsurvivor		#1430	[-]
Posts: 4435 (01/11/09 2:29 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: Gabon's greatest asset was being completely unspoiled, even by edgic. But most of it's major characters came to end that left a bad taste in your mouth. Kota was hidden because they won so much, then got screwed and became bitter. Fang got a negative loser edit for the first half and then messed up in the end, with Crystal going almost UTR and Kenny going out like a bitch. People even soured on Sugar after they read her interviews. It was a nasty season with a UTR winners. just like Guatemala. It gave us a Ulonging plus the unfairness of the winning tribe getting pagoned. The gameplay onl;y got interesting at F6 because of Sugar, and she wasn't playing to win. On the other hand, Micronesia had amazing gameplay and it left fans of the F4 + Eliza feeling good about their faves. It showed that the ASS concept can make a successful season. What craig just said is exactly what I'm talking about.
craig		#1431	[-]
Posts: 14696 (01/11/09 2:34 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It the seasons with good gameplay and unpredictable moves, like Amazon, Pearl Islands, and Micronesia that hold up best on rewatch. Not pagonging and ulonging seasons where Tom or Terry win a zillion immunities. Plus so many players came into S16 well-loved and remained so,
Thailandsurvivor		#1432	[-]
Posts: 4436 (01/11/09 2:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: It the seasons with good gameplay and unpredictable moves, like Amazon, Pearl Islands, and Micronesia that hold up best on rewatch. Not pagonging and ulonging seasons where Tom or Terry win a zillion immunities. Plus so many players came into S16 well-loved and remained so, No, it's seasons with character development that hold up best on rewartch like Amazon, Pearl Islands, Marquesas, and Borneo.
craig		#1433	[-]
Posts: 14698 (01/11/09 2:46 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Didn't the fan tribe have as many good characters as Fang or Kota? And the Faves were well-developed in previoius seasons, so we could start in with the gameplay. No need to rehash about Cirie being a coach potato, etc. The winner did develop into a girlpower mastermind in a way that surprised many people.
Kirblar		#1434	[-]
Posts: 7370 (01/11/09 2:58 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: Gabon's greatest asset was being completely unspoiled, even by edgic. But most of it's major characters came to end that left a bad taste in your mouth. Kota was hidden because they won so much, then got screwed and became bitter. Fang got a negative loser edit for the first half and then messed up in the end, with Crystal going almost UTR and Kenny going out like a bitch. People even soured on Sugar after they read her interviews. It was a nasty season with a UTR winners. just like Guatemala. It gave us a Ulonging plus the unfairness of the winning tribe getting pagoned. The gameplay onl;y got interesting at F6 because of Sugar, and she wasn't playing to win. On the other hand, Micronesia had amazing gameplay and it left fans of the F4 + Eliza feeling good about their faves. It showed that the ASS concept can make a successful season. I don't think they trusted how the audience would react to the Gabon endgame, which is understandable. Hence, the incredibly manipulative editing.
craig		#1435	[-]
Posts: 14700 (01/11/09 3:13 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" we should remember that the major moves in Gabon were derivative of Fans vs Faves. Kenny trying to talk Bob into giving up the necklace. Sugar trying a embarass Randy with a fake idol. Marcus throwing an idol away in reaction to S16 blindsides. Gabon also had a cushy climate and the lament Final IC ever.
Kitty Pryde1		#1436	[-]
Posts: 8247 (01/11/09 3:34 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: If "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" we should remember that the major moves in Gabon were derivative of Fans vs Faves. Kenny trying to talk Bob into giving up the necklace. Sugar trying a embarass Randy with a fake idol. Marcus throwing an idol away in reaction to S16 blindsides. Gabon also had a cushy climate and the lament Final IC ever. Gabon's FIC was the best ever. It fit the season perfectly, which used unorthodox challenges to change the game up. Everyone except Jacquie had some sort of story and everyone got that story told, plus it wasn't all a bunch of gamebots whose only focus was on blindsiding people. Micronesia was shit because everyone was a fucking robot and the shitty couples dominated the game. Gabon was great because everyone had personality and instead of a bunch of bland toneless characters, you had negatives and positives that were worth rooting for or against.
kishuu		#1437	[-]
Posts: 1064 (01/11/09 3:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	dragoondaniel78 wrote: panurge46 wrote: dragoondaniel78 wrote: First; this is a POPULARITY POLL, so different people use different yardsticks to gauge how much they wanna give a certain castaway... You have your own way of doing it and others have their own way as well. So why are you imposing your method on others when others have not done so to you? Second; there aren't 13 million Sucksters unfortunately and this is a Survivor Sucks Popularity Poll. 100 voters is definitely enough to symbolise a majority of opinions here and it would have been a larger group but sadly, SurveyMonkey has a 100-response limit. So live with it. Please try to follow: Kishuu called Crystal a Goddess. Crystal, a has-been Olympian who went on a TV program where she failed miserably; a Goddess????? I called him a fanatic. He responded by saying I was also a fanatic for other players. I didn't impose my view but explained it. Kishuu added that Crystal was the favorite of a "Huge Majority". No qualifications such as a huge majority of posters who had nothing to do on Christmas Eve or a huge majority of posters who salivate at seeing a tough broad speak up. Just a "Huge Majority". Well, there was another poll that told us a majority of voters prefered Bob. I'm pretty sure Sprint had more than 100 voters or they'd be stupid to continue their sponsorship. Guess which poll means more. Live with that. huge majority of sucks. -.- I don't think he can read what I write lol. Casual viewers probably don't remember 75% of the names anyway. And I'm a her lol. He just admitted he ranked the players by 'How strategic they were and how physically fit they were' in his previous post so obviously someone doesn't understand the meaning of a popularity poll and that others ranked characters by how much they like so and so players. 100 votes are good enough to show us the opinion of the majority of sucks tbh, nobody mentioned anything about 'Compare this to you know, the Sprint Player thing'. This is a poll to see the general opinion of sucks and not 'oh i think so and so should be gone soon'. Crystal is likely going to be top 50 in all popularity surveys here. If you want to put Crystal as the worst in Gabon and the worst survivor player ever, do it in your own ranking thread, this is a poll for people to find out the general opinion of sucks.
Nogales		#1438	[-]
Posts: 138 (01/11/09 4:01 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: craig wrote: The weirdest thing about this poll is how well Jonathan, Shane, and Randy are doing relative to CR's poll and other polls I've seen in clubs. Jonathan (both versions) shouldn't be beating Candice and Yul for S13 and Parvati for S16. Shane shouldn't be such a strong 2nd for S12, and Randy should be dozens of places ahead of his Kota allies and doing so well in the face of Kota hate. It's likely the 3 appeal to the some fans more of less, who were unusually respresented this time. Based on this I'd expect Eliza to handily best J's nemesis Cirie for S16. The "grumpy/sarcastic older gentlemen" fans are among the most devout fan group in Sucks. I expect Jonathan (their leader) to beat Eliza. Cirie, however, is actually amazing IN ADDITION to getting the "minority woman" votes and the "non-fit woman" votes. She's the center of a Venn diagram of fandom. Actual good player + heavy minority favoritism + realistic body = unstoppable It's nice to the racists come out in full force and declare their victim complexes. Seriously what the hell makes you think people are liking minorities just for being non-white, when the majority of Sucks is white? If there is any favortism, it wouldn't be for ethnic minorities. You have a whole bunch of posters who hate the minority-filled seasons, elevate the pretty white girls like Jenn to god-like status while hating castaways like Lydia, Rebecca, and Michelle, and people who downright go on white-power crusades like craig because they are delusional and think everybody must be hating white people. If it's not bad enough that there are people who base their opinions on skin color, but now we've got people who play the race card to ram their favorites down people's throats
Captain Bellamy		#1439	[-]
Posts: 1032 (01/11/09 5:16 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I know it's a lot to ask for, but Richard Hatch and Jonathan Penner for final 2!!!
Mikester		#1440	[-]
Posts: 731 (01/11/09 6:32 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Boooo at Parvati going out before FvF Eliza & FvF Jonathan. Glad she's the third highest winner, though <3

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