All-Around Best Season?

0 Kudo

Started By	Comment
menelaus		#61	[-]
Posts: 167 (01/03/09 7:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Marquesas is interesting because it was one of the first seasons, so it does get that sentimental value, but at the same time it was a really exciting season (until the finale), even on the level of PI or post-merge Micronesia. Pre-merge had great story lines and surprising boots (the Sarah, Rob, and John storylines are all really entertaining, and the Hunter and Gabriel boots were unexpected, especially the Gabriel boot), and the post-merge started out exciting with the coup of the Rotu 4 (which is strangely in the same episode as one of the most boring challenges ever, where the most exciting part was Neleh saying that she made herself a new dress), and even as it turned into a pagonging there were still really great moments (like Sean and Paschal on reward together dancing with their pants full of food). Pretty much everyone in the cast was great, and they even hit some huge characters (Sarah, Rob, John, Kathy).
PrettyGoodYear1988		#62	[-]
Posts: 1920 (01/03/09 8:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wish Kathy had won, too, but a lot of times the greatest player is taken out before the Finals because everyone knows they're the greatest player. The thing that kills me is even after countless fire starting challenges, people still threaten other players with a "pull the rock scenario." Even after Cirie lost a fire building challenge in Panama, she was the one that was convinced a colored rock would come up in Micronesia if she went to a tie in the final six. IDIOTS. Stranded, the Survivors actually are given rulebooks before the game begins. They know what the tiebreakers are. Before the Final 4, if there are an even number of castaways left and a tie occurs, the two people who are tied (and whoever is Immune, if applicable) are safe and the rest of the Survivors choose rocks. If there's an odd number of castaways, obviously the only way a tie could occur is if someone made a throwaway vote, so they simply re-vote between the two who are tied. The tiebreaker at the F4 is a fire-starting challenge, which was implemented simply for the fact that it had been unfair in Marquesas.
Stranded		#63	[-]
Posts: 2458 (01/03/09 8:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	People have freaked out about the purple rock in final four scenarios, as well. I believe Ian threatening to "go to rocks" happened in Palau?
Kirblar		#64	[-]
Posts: 7321 (01/03/09 8:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Stranded wrote: People have freaked out about the purple rock in final four scenarios, as well. I believe Ian threatening to "go to rocks" happened in Palau? Wasn't that when they strongarmed Katie into voting Gregg out?
GrenadeJumper85		#65	[-]
Posts: 7544 (01/03/09 8:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yes. Ian mentioned that when him and Tom were trying to force her into voting out Gregg instead of making it a 3-3 tie. Oh, and Marquesas will forever be my most favorite season ever. <3 Sean, Vee, Rob <3
Stranded		#66	[-]
Posts: 2459 (01/03/09 9:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Shit, I just thought of that when I signed on. Are we positive that rocks would be used when there is a tie outside of final four? I also seem to recall other ties in Palau. There were like four in all. Did someone switch votes every time?
PKFA		#67	[-]
Posts: 537 (01/03/09 10:22 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The two ties in Palau were when Angie and James were voted out. There were only three people doing the revote where Angie left, so there couldn't be a tie again, but Steph switched her vote anyway. She also switched it at the next TC after the tie and voted for James.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#68	[-]
Posts: 7083 (01/03/09 10:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Put this shit in LTS. Borneo is what I would label the "best" season. When I mean "best", I don't mean best in relation to other seasons, but it is best because it stands by itself the best. "The game" and strategizing are fun and all, but they aren't the point of the show. It is a social experiment, and should primarily be focused on the castaways, not tactics. It is also one of the more difficult seasons, and the show IS about physical survival to a point. I wish it was more of a point, but oh well.
menelaus		#69	[-]
Posts: 174 (01/03/09 11:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Borneo is what I would label the "best" season. When I mean "best", I don't mean best in relation to other seasons, but it is best because it stands by itself the best. "The game" and strategizing are fun and all, but they aren't the point of the show. It is a social experiment, and should primarily be focused on the castaways, not tactics. It is also one of the more difficult seasons, and the show IS about physical survival to a point. I wish it was more of a point, but oh well. Meh, then Africa and Thailand would have to be the next best seasons, since they had such terrible and non-existent strategy, so they were basically all about how the people interacted with one another, which was easy when you had people like Frank and Jan staying around for a long time (I do think that the "social experiment" is a legitimate way of looking at the show, just a different one. I personally like a mix of both, which is why I love PI and Marquesas so much. Those seasons gave us both great interactions and characters, while at the same time being strategically exiting).
GrenadeJumper85		#70	[-]
Posts: 7562 (01/03/09 11:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Stranded wrote: Shit, I just thought of that when I signed on. Are we positive that rocks would be used when there is a tie outside of final four? I also seem to recall other ties in Palau. There were like four in all. Did someone switch votes every time? Yep, but in all of those ties someone always changed their vote during the revote. But yes, the purple rock is still a tiebreaker when there is a tie with an even amount of castaways, and no one changes their vote.
colleenlover		#71	[-]
Posts: 8903 (01/04/09 12:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In the first season, Burnett in an entertainment weekly interview woudn't reveal what the tiebreaker would be. Said they were saving it for a surprise when it does happen. There was speculation that they would make the players go all night until a decision was made. The past votes was great in theory but it kills anyone making any waves along the game in fear of even receiving one vote as baggage and creates semi quiet players all along. My biggest surprise was when Jeff announced that they made a mistake in the purple rock for final four- that it doesn't work then. To me, it most definitely DOES work then, and is the most crucial time for this move. It's the endgame, only one more round of navigating around these people and the most critical time when one could see a group of two more clearly running things- it creates a fantastic game of chicken and potentially putting new deals on the table for the final round -like Kathy and Vee did in Marquesas. And the whole point is that the person who isn't even voted for carries the weight on his/her shoulders if their willing to be safe for this round and go into the next trial against 2 to 1 or take the gamble. (like Jenna in All Stars) Then you have something like the fire challenge -especially with a final three -where it doesn't matter. Sugar had nothing to lose (in theory) because she's not at risk. The drama is still there but only between two people, not the one voting. I miss the purple rock -and of course, final two.
tullfan2		#72	[-]
Posts: 3002 (01/04/09 1:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	My biggest surprise was when Jeff announced that they made a mistake in the purple rock for final four- that it doesn't work then. To me, it most definitely DOES work then, and is the most crucial time for this move. It's the endgame, only one more round of navigating around these people and the most critical time when one could see a group of two more clearly running things- it creates a fantastic game of chicken and potentially putting new deals on the table for the final round -like Kathy and Vee did in Marquesas. And the whole point is that the person who isn't even voted for carries the weight on his/her shoulders if their willing to be safe for this round and go into the next trial against 2 to 1 or take the gamble. (like Jenna in All Stars) The reason that the purple rock selection doesn't work for final four is that the players that received votes in the tie become immune from elimination before the rocks are selected. Probst screwed up in Marquesas as Neleh and Kathy would have been immune, along with Vecepia, and that leaves only one person left, Paschal, who would be eliminated automatically without any rock selection. Chris explained how the tiebreaker works during Vanuatu.
colleenlover		#73	[-]
Posts: 8904 (01/04/09 2:45 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	yeah, no kidding. We found this out four years later regarding the immune business- or even if it was figured out by production then. Prior to that, I thought it was a great idea of having the purple rock to show people taking last stances -basically going for broke. I personally think ties are great if tension and something comes out of it. I meant I was surprised by how they thought the final four was a mistake.
Thailandsurvivor		#74	[-]
Posts: 4228 (01/04/09 2:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: In the first season, Burnett in an entertainment weekly interview woudn't reveal what the tiebreaker would be. Said they were saving it for a surprise when it does happen. There was speculation that they would make the players go all night until a decision was made. The past votes was great in theory but it kills anyone making any waves along the game in fear of even receiving one vote as baggage and creates semi quiet players all along. My biggest surprise was when Jeff announced that they made a mistake in the purple rock for final four- that it doesn't work then. To me, it most definitely DOES work then, and is the most crucial time for this move. It's the endgame, only one more round of navigating around these people and the most critical time when one could see a group of two more clearly running things- it creates a fantastic game of chicken and potentially putting new deals on the table for the final round -like Kathy and Vee did in Marquesas. And the whole point is that the person who isn't even voted for carries the weight on his/her shoulders if their willing to be safe for this round and go into the next trial against 2 to 1 or take the gamble. (like Jenna in All Stars) Then you have something like the fire challenge -especially with a final three -where it doesn't matter. Sugar had nothing to lose (in theory) because she's not at risk. The drama is still there but only between two people, not the one voting. I miss the purple rock -and of course, final two. Well, I still think past votes (as seen in my twists ranking thread http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/35372 ) is the way to go. It forces social game to play a much bigger part in strategy, and it helps create power shifts. Also, people freaking out over getting just a single vote is great, and whether you liked it or not, Lex's witch hunt was entertaining as hell. Same goes for Mitchell's and Lindsey's boot episodes. Even if they just bring it back for one season, it will make the dynamics so much better than anything Exile Island or an HII can do. Still, you're right. The final three kills most (if not all) of the end game strategy. Even in sub par seasons we've got to watch people cut throats in the finale because only two people can be sitting in the end. Now, final three alliances can be made and run out until the finals with no drama attached. (See any season with a final three AND Micronesia). I do want to see another tie outside of the final 4 because it sure has been a while, and I'm tired of firemaking. The least they can do is bring back a trivia round like Samburu's first TC.
colleenlover		#75	[-]
Posts: 8905 (01/04/09 3:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh, I agree -I loved the past votes rule. Made it more like a chess game -even if it never came to play (ie. voting Tom or Lex out in final eight and Samburu taking the reins would have been brilliant and justly deserved). But I think it probably lended itself to conservative play and vote outs more consistant than scattered, and hard for regular viewers to follow.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#76	[-]
Posts: 7138 (01/04/09 11:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	menelaus wrote: Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote: Borneo is what I would label the "best" season. When I mean "best", I don't mean best in relation to other seasons, but it is best because it stands by itself the best. "The game" and strategizing are fun and all, but they aren't the point of the show. It is a social experiment, and should primarily be focused on the castaways, not tactics. It is also one of the more difficult seasons, and the show IS about physical survival to a point. I wish it was more of a point, but oh well. Meh, then Africa and Thailand would have to be the next best seasons, since they had such terrible and non-existent strategy, so they were basically all about how the people interacted with one another, which was easy when you had people like Frank and Jan staying around for a long time (I do think that the "social experiment" is a legitimate way of looking at the show, just a different one. I personally like a mix of both, which is why I love PI and Marquesas so much. Those seasons gave us both great interactions and characters, while at the same time being strategically exiting). Seasons after the first have been affected by previous seasons. This brings about new dynamics in the "social experiment" portion of the show, but it also has an adverse reaction that causes the producers to bring in(oftentimes, but not always) game related twists that do nothing but increase the focus on "the game".
3Diesel		#77	[-]
Posts: 443 (01/04/09 11:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: Oh, I agree -I loved the past votes rule. Made it more like a chess game -even if it never came to play (ie. voting Tom or Lex out in final eight and Samburu taking the reins would have been brilliant and justly deserved). But I think it probably lended itself to conservative play and vote outs more consistant than scattered, and hard for regular viewers to follow. I think there's good things and bad things about it. I think the bad thing about it is that it makes for a lot of luck because it gives loose cannons a lot of power to influence the game. Somebody who's really prejudice like somebody who hates pretty girls may just throw their parting vote to that person and then that person is screwed. It becomes a rich get richer thing and the poor get poorer
victalac		#78	[-]
Posts: 1645 (01/05/09 5:38 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Africa was under-rated. Who remembers Silas and Linda? And Clarence? And Diane the Postman, who threw the water away?
SmithSurvivor		#79	[-]
Posts: 3 (01/05/09 10:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I have to say that in my opinion Micronesia was the best season. It did have great blindsides and a very entertaining cast. Parvati really played that game and deserved the million. Amanda was the only downside to the season because, well, she sucks. But other than that I loved how the entire game played out and how most of the blindsides on the jury were in part to Parv. Oh, and that scene where Jason gives Eliza the fake idol is priceless. My second choice would be probably Borneo, mostly because it's a classic.
quicksilver82		#80	[-]
Posts: 81 (01/05/09 11:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Micronesia RULES!!!

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Yuku free message boards

All-Around Best Season?

Quick Reply