You've obivously never been on the business end of a contact I negotiated.Probably not, dagny. I would definitely be out of my league if all of your contracts include big words like obivously.
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Josiah Leming - Gone but never forgotten
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Posts: 1106 (11/05/08 12:36 PM) Registered user |
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Posts: 772 (11/05/08 9:49 PM) I demand attention! |
This whole story about Idol suing Josiah is obivously planted to get publicity for his CD. The Idol contract everybody signs only runs through the summer, then
contestants whose contract idol doesn't pick up (almost everybody not in the top 2) are free to get a deal elsewhere. Bucky Covington got a call the day
after he was voted off the show, made a handshake deal, began working on his album, then signed an official deal as soon as he could.
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Posts: 7541 (11/06/08 6:18 AM) Registered User |
8trackmind wrote:Maybe the question is when did Josiah actually sign the real contract? Having a verbal deal and one in writing are different, at least in this case. |
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Posts: 31478 (11/06/08 9:46 PM) Not a Registered User anymore |
I am not 100% sure that is true 8track, I was always under the impression the Idol contracts get more and more airtight as the show realizes more about their
outcasts and the success they could get. Bucky was season 5, we have no idea what the contract of season 7 is.
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Posts: 16176 (11/07/08 11:19 PM) Registered User |
If I recall correctly, Chris Sligh from AI6 posted (long before the Josiah story arc even aired on the show) that a new amendment was made in the AI7 contract
in that anyone that made Top 48 this time around were severely restricted what they can do post-AI (essentially selling your soul away or in this case, music
career, for a shot of guaranteed fame) and he was thanking his lucky stars that he auditioned in his season when the already limiting idol contract was still
"lax" especially when the new rules did not yet extend to the Top 48.
So basically, if you made Top 48 in AI7 - you're in a locked contract with AI for a long while... 19Evil at work! Don't forget the people that got cut in the Top 48 didn't make the semis and are not allowed to audition again! Can we say SCREWED?
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Posts: 15758 (11/08/08 9:18 AM) Registered user |
I don't see why Idol cares to limit what losers from like pre-semis or even losers from the semis do post-Idol, or even like the contestants who didn't
make Top 6. It's like a 1 in a bazillion chance that anyone who didn't make the finals is going to find commercial success. If they don't have
commercial success leave them alone to do whatever they want indie, it's not like the $100 they pocket selling CDs out of the back of a truck means shit to
19E and co.
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Posts: 19 (11/08/08 11:59 PM) |
I think people are confused. When you sign the Idol contract, that's an exclusive contract and you're not allowed to sign with any other management company or recording label that's not part of Sony/BMG while you're under it. For the vast majority of Idol contestants (except for the winner and runner-up usually), the contract ends after the tour. FWIW, they are legally bound to sue him for breach of contract if he indeed did sign while he was still bound to AI. If they don't, then they can't legally sue anybody who signs with other management or with a competing record label while still under the contract. Which would totally defeat the purpose of having the contract in the first place.
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Posts: 2421 (11/09/08 2:23 AM) Registered User |
chidelta wrote: Lighten up--I was kidding around. Sorry about the typo. 
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Posts: 2396 (11/09/08 5:03 AM) Registered User |
His music is actually better than those freaking mainstreme people.
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Posts: 6713 (11/10/08 1:10 AM) WRP Official Spokesperson |
He would audition again in AI8 and if he'll make it to the semifinals.
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Posts: 6918 (11/10/08 1:59 AM) Registered user |
suckshardcore wrote:Which season had that guy who quit right before the Top 12? |
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Posts: 7564 (11/10/08 8:50 AM) Registered User |
Apprentice Talker wrote:Well, considering Idol is considering suing him, I'm gonna doubt they'd really let him through . . . and if he has a contract elsewhere, he couldn't audition. |
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Posts: 775 (11/10/08 9:07 AM) I demand attention! |
I've never understood why people who get dropped in the early or middle Hollywood rounds can audition again (i.e. Gina Glocksen) but people who fall just
short of making the top 24 can't.
Changing the contract to screw top 48ers who don't make it, semi-finalists, and finalists who 19Evil has no intention of signing just in case they MIGHT catch on with somebody else is a sure way of decreasing the talent level of auditioners... especially with so many winners and 2nd place finishers getting dropped recently. |
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Posts: 7566 (11/10/08 2:00 PM) Registered User |
I won't give any names, but it would seem they changed something in the rules. According to reports of who has auditioned this year, there are some people
who made the late Hollywood rounds (the "chair" episodes) from previous seasons auditioning again. Well, we know one person who won't be
auditioning again.
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Posts: 31640 (11/10/08 11:42 PM) Not a Registered User anymore |
Kirblar wrote:Mario Vasquez of season 4 who was signed by Idol. |
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Posts: 30 (11/13/08 1:09 PM) |
<3 Josiah
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Posts: 7686 (11/13/08 2:20 PM) Registered user |
I saw an MTV news report about Josiah last night. It was about the suing thing and also how he has to live down his sob story that Idol let everyone know
about... Oh and also they're going to make a TV movie about Josiah's sad sad life and about how his mother has had like 94 radiation treatments for
cancer or something. They did admit that they were hoping this would boost sales for him though.
I wished death upon him throughout the whole newscast. 
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Posts: 50 (11/13/08 2:24 PM) |
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Posts: 16 (11/16/08 7:19 AM) |
The Purple Parrot wrote: If I were watching it, so would I.
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Posts: 7607 (11/16/08 10:55 AM) Registered User |
The Purple Parrot wrote:I hope they cast Madonna in the movie. She and Josiah can do a duet of fake British accents. |
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