2/4/09 Ep4 "The Little Prince"

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cindidindi76		#201	[-]
Posts: 15188 (02/05/09 5:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Let's see what i can remember... The first time, it was just Sayid. In The Numbers, it was Sayid, Jack and Charlie. Exodus...I really can't remember. I think she showed up before the raft took off, didn't she? After that I can't remember exactly when she showed up other than taking Claire to the medical hatch (kinda), but most of the tme I think it was pretty hectic.
Cheyenie		#202	[-]
Posts: 823 (02/05/09 6:29 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She was there at the end of season three. She went to the radio tower and Jin stayed back as one of the shooters.
tigeranne		#203	[-]
Posts: 6327 (02/05/09 6:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I also don't hate Kate-- and don't blame her for keeping Aaron. for the most part. as for Ben's "he's not your son"... he of all people should understand that Aaron IS Kate's son as far as she is concerned. when did they show Ben with Jin's ring? was it in last night's eppy? I didn't see it. I don't watch previews, so maybe that's where it was? I love the idea that: OK, I have a theory after watching this ep. Locke and Ben say the O6 have to go back to the island to save their friends. It's obvious now that they are constants for the island folk. But bigger than that, I think that the O6 and whomever else that has to go back are constants for the island. The island is confused and skipping around in time like Desmond was. It needs the O6 to get it's bearings back and find it's proper point in time, just like Desmond. The island started flipping through time and it thinks the O6 should be there and is freaking out. Ben is just piggybacking them to get back himself. I especially love the bolded stuff.
phantomkp		#204	[-]
Posts: 394 (02/05/09 6:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So when does the island start getting a bloody nose?
IFY0USEEKATE		#205	[-]
Posts: 1419 (02/05/09 6:52 PM) Lost soul Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Putting a few thoughts together here... The "Little Prince" I think is a reference to Locke, not Aaron. In the book, the Little Prince has to die to return to his planet. I also think it's rather amusing that Locke may come back to life on the island and his mother said he was immaculately conceived. Rousseau didn't know Jin in the past episodes because that memory wasn't there yet. Remember that Desmond didn't have any memory of Daniel coming to him in the hatch until he suddenly woke up with the memory 3 years later. It wasn't there before. It will be interesting to see if Sawyer ends up with a nose bleed. I think that Kate is his constant and since he saw her while Claire was giving birth, he might be ok. Daniel is ok because Desmond is his constant and he got Des to open the Hatch in the premiere. I'm convinced that Mrs. Hawking is Daniel's Mother and Widmore is his father. I also think that Hawking and Widmore could be Penny's parents as well (we know that Widmore is.) Twins maybe? That would be a great WTF moment --- Des meets Daniel's mom and remembers her from the jewelry store and says, "YOU?" while Penny sees her and says, "MUM?" heh Miles has to be Candle's son, and I also think that Charlotte could very well be the daughter of Annie and Ben. Poor Jin --- he must be freaking out!
cindidindi76		#206	[-]
Posts: 15196 (02/05/09 7:01 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Rousseau didn't know Jin in the past episodes because that memory wasn't there yet. Remember that Desmond didn't have any memory of Daniel coming to him in the hatch until he suddenly woke up with the memory 3 years later. It wasn't there before. Which doesn't make any sense, because Desmond should have had the memory out on the emergency raft, not three years later.
catspasms		#207	[-]
Posts: 8308 (02/05/09 7:40 PM) I need a life Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I thought Desmond never met Faraday? Did he even say his name when radioing Desmond on the carrier? And I'm pretty sure you guys are right...Danielle never did meet Jin. And you have to admit--that's a sign that the writers are clever, regardless of whether they planned this that way or not.
WiscBadger95		#208	[-]
Posts: 13185 (02/05/09 8:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Stuff for y'all to chew on ... Seeing that night from the perspective of the time travelers was interesting because it's the first time I realized that 3 very key things all happened on that night, the death of Boone, the birth of Aaron, and also if you recall it was the night Desmond was in the hatch about to read his Dickens novel and then kill himself. It was Locke slamming his fist on the hatch and screaming that made him not do it. It makes you wonder if the dates the island is traveling to hold some sort of significant meaning in the course of destiny... as if the island is showing the people time traveling things they need to see.... Finally, lets explore the title of this episode. On the surface it would seem as if it is referring to Aaron, but when Locke's group came upon the wreckage from Rousseau's boat there was a canister that said "Besixdouze", possible the name of their boat. "The Little Prince" is actually a French children's book written in 1943. Despite being a children's book the story includes a variety of themes on life, perception and human nature. It was written by Antoine de Saint-Exupery, who in addition to being an author was also a pilot who disappeared during an expedition under mysterious circumstances and was never seen again. In his book, Besixdouze (which translates to B612) is the name of the asteroid that The Little Prince lives on. Source: SethIsLost.com
blur2k		#209	[-]
Posts: 713 (02/05/09 9:22 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but outside of Sawyer and Juliet, who the hell is left for the O6 to want to go back to the island and save? Everyone else is pretty much dead. Locke, to them, is currently dead and wouldn't want to leave the island anyway, and Rose and Bernard don't want to leave the island. Farraday, Charlotte, and Miles aren't exactly their friends. They weren't trying to rescue the losties, so why should the O6 give a damn about them?
WiscBadger95		#210	[-]
Posts: 13187 (02/05/09 9:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Blur, by the time Locke meets up with the O6, dies, and Ben pulls the O6 back together, everyone is dead. So, it seems that the O6 have to go back to the Island to set things right, so that no one dies. In other words, to help the universe course correct itself.
Seyz		#211	[-]
Posts: 349 (02/05/09 9:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So are they losties experiencing what the french people did and ultimately ended all going berserk-o I hope we finally find out why all the french people from the plane ended up going insane except for Danielle.
Do NOT Call Me Jenny		#212	[-]
Posts: 707 (02/05/09 11:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Did they really say that after the O6 left the island that everyone died? That is what I thought I heard when I watched the 1st episode(s) of the season, but I thought they said something different after re-watching it.
phantomkp		#213	[-]
Posts: 396 (02/06/09 1:46 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	IFY0USEEKATE wrote: Rousseau didn't know Jin in the past episodes because that memory wasn't there yet. Remember that Desmond didn't have any memory of Daniel coming to him in the hatch until he suddenly woke up with the memory 3 years later. It wasn't there before. You have to understand, and theyve tried to explain this in interviews for awhile...how the time travel thing works in lost. What we see happening in the past NOW...like Sawyer seeing Claire give birth and Jin meeting Rousseau...had ALWAYS happened. Its not happening for the first time. So, when we saw Claire give birth in Season 1...Sawyer was ALWAYS in the bushes watching...we just didnt know it at the time. Netither did he. The ONLY exception so far is Desmond. Cause he has special abilities, as weve seen in previous seasons. Thats why hes dangerous to fate and destiny. So when Faraday talked with Desmond in the past that was the FIRST time that ever happened..which is why it was a new memory for Desmond in the future. Cause the first time around in the previous season, Faraday never knocked on the Swan hatch door like that. Desmond can circumvent the destiny loop it seems. (not letting charlie die the way he was supposed to is another example.) But everything else we see happen in the past has always been. Either Rousseau simply never re-met Jin in past seasons to recognize him...or she simply was too off her rocker to care or make a deal about it. Or, like someone else said, maybe she has seen all the losties in her more sane past...thats why shes so loony around them! :p
phantomkp		#214	[-]
Posts: 397 (02/06/09 1:56 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cindidindi76 wrote: Rousseau didn't know Jin in the past episodes because that memory wasn't there yet. Remember that Desmond didn't have any memory of Daniel coming to him in the hatch until he suddenly woke up with the memory 3 years later. It wasn't there before. Which doesn't make any sense, because Desmond should have had the memory out on the emergency raft, not three years later. Why doesnt it make sense when the island itself isnt in normal time? It would be really bizzare, to me, if desmond had the memory on the emergency raft...cause that would assume time on the island is moving along as it has been...its not! Plus, if Ben and Locke get booted off the island and arrive back in the real world at a future date...why wouldnt the same go for thoughts/memories? It seems it took Lock 3 years to get to the real world with the 06 when it seems like hes heading for the Orchid in a few days time. So it would make sense a memory gets booted out similarly...if you can make any sense of it at all! :p
phantomkp		#215	[-]
Posts: 398 (02/06/09 2:02 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	blur2k wrote: I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but outside of Sawyer and Juliet, who the hell is left for the O6 to want to go back to the island and save? Um..Hurly always felt bad about leaving most of the people on that island... Jack wants to save Juliet, at the very least, and he wants to save as many people as he can if you want to look at it that way..its his nature. And dont forget, there are (were) alot of "extras" survivors besides Rose and Bernard that might not have wanted to stay on the island...hurly and jack thinks about them too Sun will want to go back when she finds out Jin is there. Aaron will want to go back cause Kate is the only one who feeds him and he has to go with her :P As for Kate and Sayid...we havent seen them commit yet. But im sure, like Sun...there will be compelling reasons for them to agree eventually.
phantomkp		#216	[-]
Posts: 399 (02/06/09 2:10 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WiscBadger95 wrote: Blur, by the time Locke meets up with the O6, dies, and Ben pulls the O6 back together, everyone is dead. So, it seems that the O6 have to go back to the Island to set things right, so that no one dies. In other words, to help the universe course correct itself. Hmmm..i didnt get that from the show at all? What makes you think everyone on the island is dead by the time Ben starts getting the 06 together? Did i miss that line in the show?
ThaimeAfterThaime		#217	[-]
Posts: 68 (02/06/09 7:08 AM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There's a big difference between Desmond and Rousseau, though. Daniel was able to plant the memory because he knows that Desmond is unique, with the power to change the past. According to Faraday, that would not have worked with anyone else. Presumably, Jin and Rousseau are not equal to Desmond. eta: Oh, I should have read more carefully ... phantomkp explained all this already.
GrenadeJumper85		#218	[-]
Posts: 8222 (02/06/09 8:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why do people hate Kate for taking Aaron, isn't that one of the most logical things a person would do given the fact that Claire just up and disappeared. ::shrugs:: I'm also tired of Locke the all knowing. He just gets under my skin sometimes. And is anyone else suspicious that the only picture Sun has of her baby is one when she was first born even though she's almost three-years old now?!! Last Edited By: GrenadeJumper85 02/06/09 8:27 AM. Edited 1 times.
WallJ		#219	[-]
Posts: 548 (02/06/09 8:23 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was so hoping that when they were on the canoes and time shifted that they wound up right next to the four toe statue...but this time with the complete statue.
aslanscubs		#220	[-]
Posts: 1991 (02/06/09 8:50 AM) MWV Champ and I get pecan pie! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyways, i think the idea is that Daniel wont get nosebleed cause he already has a constant in Desmond. (just like Daniel being desmonds constant fixed him) Desmond's constant is/was Penny. Just had to correct ya there. :op

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