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Would Cirie and Natalie have been better off going with Eric? |
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Posts: 82 (02/07/09 02:31 PM) |
Someone with actual knowledge of Survivor Strategy would have to answer this...
Would it have been better for Cirie and Natalie to boot Parvati at the Final 5?? In Hindsight? |
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Posts: 27 (02/07/09 02:36 PM) |
The question is, do Natalie and Cirie think they can beat Amanda but cannot beat Erik? Looking back at the challenges, Erik probably would have won the last
few, Parvati would be gone. Cirie would be gone next.
Erik vs. Natalie vs. Amanda I think they made the right move in not going with Erik. |
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Posts: 315 (02/07/09 02:41 PM) |
Cirie made all the right moves. Her only mistake was not knowing the producers would go back to F2. If she had known that, I'm sure there would be a 2-2 at
the F4.
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Posts: 933 (02/07/09 02:43 PM) |
If Cirie and Natalie were going to go with Erik all along, I'd assume they would have voted Amanda off instead of Parvati.
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Posts: 486 (02/07/09 03:09 PM) |
I actually think in a way it would have been, but only if the F2 was known about. Otherwise then no, getting rid of Erik was absolutely the right move.
If the F2 was known about then yes keeping Erik could have been beneficial, especially to Cirie, as I think she could of manipulated him into taking her to the F2 (remember he was already convinced that Natalie was a huge jury vote threat). But without a sixth sense, no it made total sense to get out the biggest physical threat and it remains one of the greatest moves in the history of the game. |
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Posts: 4922 (02/07/09 03:11 PM) |
ThrowMeGabon wrote:Cirie said in post show interviews that she would not have forced a tie with Natalie at the final 4 if they knew it was a final two. That basically told me she is nowhere close to as good of a player as people give her credit for. She was happy being the third wheel. |
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Posts: 488 (02/07/09 03:37 PM) |
Thailandsurvivor wrote:She said 'probably not' when asked whether she would have forced a tie. She didn't rule it out. She didn't want to have to screw Parv and Amanda, she was thinking about it from a jury vote perspective. Not forcing a tie might very have been a mistake, but I can certainly understand why she wouldnt of chosen that course of action. If throughout the game, the F2 was known about then she probably wouldn't have stuck with that alliance. It's pretty doubtful she was 'happy' being the 'third wheel' given that so much of her game was about positioning herself to get to te end. |
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Posts: 10343 (02/07/09 03:48 PM) Registered User |
Thailandsurvivor wrote:She also had said that she felt out Alexis AND Natalie a little earlier in the game about voting off Parvati, and they didn't give her the reaction she wanted, so she dropped it. This is confirmed by Natalie. |
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Posts: 5116 (02/07/09 03:51 PM) Registered user |
If they all knew it was going to be a F2, then the whole thing may have happened completely differently. Cirie accepted the F3 alliance with Parvati and Amanda
on day 4, or whenever it was, because she knew she would be a finalist and get a shot at winning the game. With a final two, everything would be different. So
to answer the OP: Who the fuck knows? This is the kind of stuff that's impossible to speculate.
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Posts: 7215 (02/07/09 04:08 PM) |
ThrowMeGabon wrote: You Cirie fans are THE most delusional fuckwads I have ever seen. 
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Posts: 7555 (02/07/09 04:28 PM) Registered user |
Here's the problem with Cirie teaming with Nat at the F4- Natalie was intensely loyal to Parv. If Cirie had offered the tie, there was a very good chance
Natalie would have run to Parv and gotten Cirie booted 3-1 instead.
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Posts: 4925 (02/07/09 04:36 PM) |
chapera rocks wrote: So because she asked much earlier in the game, Natalie would not have been willing to vote out Parv at the final four to save herself? Come on. I know the fans got edits making the majority of them look like idiots, but people should at least be able to say Natalie knew what she was doing strategically. The interview I read said something along the lines of, "No. I was loyal to Parvati and Amanda." |
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Posts: 4190 (02/07/09 05:21 PM) |
No one wanted to get rid of Parvati. All the women thought of Parvati as their number one ally and the easiest person to beat in the finals. Everyone
was either devoted to Parvati (Natalie, Amanda, Cirie) OR wanted to go with her to end as a goat (Erik, Cirie again) so Amanda winning immunity totally killed
the opportunity for Cirie and Natalie to team up.
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Posts: 14924 (02/07/09 05:28 PM) Registered User |
Here's the problem with Cirie teaming with Nat at the F4- Natalie was intensely loyal to Parv. If Cirie had offered the tie, there was a very good chance Natalie would have run to Parv and gotten Cirie booted 3-1 instead.Good point. Why would Natalie go to a tie-breaker if she didn't have to? Parv was BFF with each of the girls in F4, making her hardest to target. Also if Cirie did mange to betray Parvmanda at F4, Amanda could still take Natalie to F2. She was worried about Cirie being a mom and having persuasive skills. |
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Posts: 316 (02/07/09 05:39 PM) |
Dictatorship wrote:Cirie did really well in Micronesia, that doesn't make me her fanboy. Fuck off and die please. |
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Posts: 14925 (02/07/09 05:49 PM) Registered User |
Erik is the big winner if Cirie and Natalie vote with him at F5. Especially if Amanda was booted (and Cirie and Nat would have insisted she be the target if
they were serious).
Erik would then have great odds of making the Finals, where he'd have tons of jury support (Ozzy, Jason, James). The women would just show for the 37th time that women can't work together, Cirie would become Scout or Twila 2.0, and the Faves would suffer the embarassment of losing to a Fanboy. Much better for Cirie's reputation to go down as she did.
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chapera rocks |
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Posts: 10346 (02/07/09 05:55 PM) Registered User |
Except when Cirie gave Natalie the chance to take out Parvati (~final 6), she said no. What was to stop Natalie from going to Parvati/Amanda and telling them that Cirie turned on them, just so that she's out of the line of fire? Your point is that Cirie was blindly loyal to Parvati/Amanda, and I'm refuting that point by saying (with Natalie confirmation) that Cirie was willing to take them out, but didn't have the support. So if Cirie was going to stick with the faves at final 4, it wasn't because she was blindly loyal, it would be because she thought it was better for her strategically. Not saying I agree with it, but who knows what she would have done out there anyway. |
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Posts: 2015 (02/07/09 06:54 PM) Stranger with benefits
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Dictatorship wrote: Coming from a Marcus fan, this is hilarious. |
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Posts: 518 (02/07/09 07:21 PM) |
fans are capable of being delusional of anyone, doesnt matter the breed
given thatrequires someone to enter fanboy status..... |
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Posts: 1349 (02/07/09 08:04 PM) Registered user |
Kirblar wrote:if parvati knew it was a f2, she would definitely rally amanda and natalie to vote cirie out, and let amanda take the fall. |
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Posts: 7 (02/08/09 12:10 AM) |
Kirblar wrote: That is pretty much how it would have went. Natalies loyalties were with Parvati. Why would she flip on Parv? She wouldn't! Cirie would've been toast at the final four. |
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