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endlessmike wrote:

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This sucks if true, I just started to get into BBUK. I figured BBUK and BBAU were much bigger deals in their respective countries compared to BBUS, so it makes no sense to me that the US version could outlast the other two.

I think those from the US that grew up with BBUSA prefer BBUK just because it is so different from what they are use to. And it works the other way around. I grew up with BBUK and although it was fantastic from BB1-BB5 (well forget BB4), it started to go down hill towards the end of BB7. BB8 was god awful and BB9 not much better. So I now prefer BBUSA because to me it feels fresher than our version.

Another reason why I think the US version is still going is because it has a clear format and purpose to the show. On the most part the housemates want to play the game and win. Winning is seen as 'wrong' in BBUK, being a game player is not a good thing, so the show has no point, it just turns in to horrible people bitching about nothing in particular. When the show first started it was a "social experiment", we know the results to that experiment now, the format has become stale and ratings are dropping to their lowest ever.

BBUSA still maintains a decent 6.5/7 million viewers, great for a series coming up to its 11th season and can still churn on entertaining seasons with good winners (BB10), it is not in any real danger yet.

However BB10UK won't be the final series, The Daily Star talk complete shit. The current contract runs up to BB11 and also includes one more January series (whether that'll be a Celeb series or not remains to be seen). So even if BB10 is a flop, which it probably will be if it keeps up the current trend, then I'm sure they'll still do BB11 to ride the series out, probably make it an All-Star series.

However the producers are talking about big changes for BB10, but they always say stuff like this so it is difficult to trust them. Davina McCall on Twitter said she had dinner with the producer and she said "Boy, the changes to this years series will amaze you all" (but people are still questioning whether it is the real Davina on Twitter). http://twitter.com/DavinaMcCall

endlessmike wrote:

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Redmond wrote:

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endlessmike wrote:

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This sucks if true, I just started to get into BBUK. I figured BBUK and BBAU were much bigger deals in their respective countries compared to BBUS, so it makes no sense to me that the US version could outlast the other two.

I think those from the US that grew up with BBUSA prefer BBUK just because it is so different from what they are use to. And it works the other way around. I grew up with BBUK and although it was fantastic from BB1-BB5 (well forget BB4), it started to go down hill towards the end of BB7. BB8 was god awful and BB9 not much better. So I now prefer BBUSA because to me it feels fresher than our version.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer the US format even if it devolves into constant strategy talk in some stretches. I really like UK (at least what I've seen), but it's no substitute for my beloved US version. What surprises me about cancellation talk is simply the fact that UK and AU just seem so much more relevant. The production value, the crowds and the fact that a lot of the housemates gain some sort of celebrity status in the other countries is something that BBUS will never achieve.

I wish one of the changes that will "amaze" me would be getting rid of Davina.

I love Davina, especially compared to Julie. What's the general opinion of her in the UK?

Housemates stopped gaining "celebrity" I'd say after BB3. With only a couple of exceptions since. Housemates disappear really quickly now. The housemates of BB9 the quickest yet. People have this idea of BBUK been this huge series that the whole country talks about and where the housemates become household names but that is a false perception and one that BBUK itself created. BB1-BB3 yeah huge success, BB3 everyone was watching and talking about it and the housemates did become household names for a long while, some still in the news today although for other reasons (Jade Goody). But year after year it becomes less relevant.

BBUSA may have never taken off in a huge way like BBUK did, but that also protected it from getting major criticism. BBUSA maintained a level if you will, it is pretty consistent in a commercial sense, only the hardcore fans find things to pick apart. BBUK was once huge, successful show but what comes with that is a lot of backlash if the series suddenly stops delivering. BB4 was ripped apart for being boring, the press said it was the death of Big Brother. But then BB5 came back and it was huge again, it is the second most watched series behind BB3. BB6 got less interest because the housemates were mostly horrible, dislikable people. BB7 was a success again, got the press interested, ratings went up and a couple of housemates had brief "celebrity status" (Nikki, Pete).

CBB5 started the current trend of 'Big Brother hate' with the whole race-row situation. Press turned on it, fans were put off and people said it had run its course.

BB8 which followed didn't do anything to help. BB8 was a flop, hated by long time fans, casual fans and the press (for the most part). It just got everything wrong from the very start (the All Female Twist anyone?), awful housemates and twist after twist that just fell completely flat (the £100,000 giveaway, the Half-Way House)...oh and Carole.

After BB8 came Celebrity Hijack, which was restricted to E4 only because of the previous years CBB race-row. It was a decent enough series, but only the really hardcore BB fans were watching, the ratings stunk...it was a flop.

BB9 was next and they promised "different housemates, personalities we have never seen on BB before" and they stated that the "housemates would have to work harder to stay in the house". But we got the same old shit. It had some decent housemates and the production was better than BB8 (but that isn't saying much), but it still suffered from too many housemates that were pointless, crap tasks and twists and badly executed format changes like the HoH and Nominations Pod which could have been great ideas but they just weren't pulled off correctly. The press weren't interested in BB9, with only The Daily Star paying it much attention and that isn't a good thing. Ratings were down on BB8 and Big Brother still had this vibe of 'hate' surrounding it.

CBB6 which just finished a few weeks ago flopped even worse, ratings hitting an all time low, dropping to 1.5 million one night! It started off fairly well but it quickly descended in to the mundane. Crap tasks and shitty production. Press didn't care, housemates didn't stick around for long in the media afterwards and now people are saying BB10 will be the last series, and although I don't think it will be, I can see why people are saying it.

BBUK, a series I grew up with, a series I use to love, is just dying and it is quite sad to see. It lacks a point, it has no purpose, no reason for people to tune in anymore. "What is happening on BB tonight?"...."Oh well...some media whores are going to be bitching about some other media whores behind their backs...and later they will be wearing leotards as they reenact a music video by the Pet Shop Boys"....that sums up BBUK at the minute, people don't want to watch that shit.

At least BBUSA has a purpose, even if the housemates suck, you still have the "Well I want to see who wins the Veto tonight" aspect, there is something to watch, a point to it all.

Sorry to go on so long but hope I can correct a few myths about BBUK.


Oh and the opinion of Davina here in the UK, in the mainstream she is still pretty much well liked, but she is known for her bad presenting skills and her flopped chat show from a couple of years back. The press and many fans think that after Big Brother she will find it difficult to get work.

Lots of the hardcore fans hate her because she is bias and a terrible interviewer/presenter, gurns too much, asks shitty questions and always seems to favour the arseholes.

NatalieCunialLulz wrote:

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Redmond wrote:

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BBUK, a series I grew up with, a series I use to love, is just dying and it is quite sad to see. It lacks a point, it has no purpose, no reason for people to tune in anymore. "What is happening on BB tonight?"...."Oh well...some media whores are going to be bitching about some other media whores behind their backs...and later they will be wearing leotards as they reenact a music video by the Pet Shop Boys"....that sums up BBUK at the minute, people don't want to watch that shit.

At least BBUSA has a purpose, even if the housemates suck, you still have the "Well I want to see who wins the Veto tonight" aspect, there is something to watch, a point to it all

i'm starting to agree that there's a grass is greener element to this though

So true.

Want to swap places for a while?

On the topic of failed twists, I can't imagine anything BBUS has done that was worse than BB8's "Half-Way House" that was just fuck up after fuck up. Too many housemates, swapping back and forth until the producers got the ones they wanted in the house...christ BB8 was awful, its the only series I ever stopped watching because I hated it so much.

BBUS has done some dumb twists too, I hated BB5's Cowboy/Nakomis twist, it became too Jerry Springer-like. Also the Crazy James in the box twist in BB9 was pathetic. But hey BBUK put Nikki back in the house after the public had already voted her out...and she was still eligible to win!!