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Posts: 13 (06/13/09 10:15 PM) |
Coachocd said: "I'm with you. In the movie "What's up, Doc", I traced each one of the identical four suitcases as they got mixed up. The
writers did their homework. It all works out perfectly."
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Posts: 7686 (06/13/09 10:16 PM) MESS member |
Does anyone else explain Maggie's seeming lack of concern about getting killed herself? It's either cause she's in on it or her writing is purely
functionary as the owner of the Inn.
Notice how Abby said, "Her mom had a child with Wakefield". What if Henry is Wakefield's kids with Abby's Mom?
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Posts: 14 (06/13/09 10:20 PM) |
As I pointed out last week, it irritated me that the sheriff didn't ask Cole who the killer was when Cole said that he and J.D. were investigating and had
a suspect. Then, both Cole and J.D. conveniently die, so the sheriff will never know. Cripe! If it had been the sheriff, at that point, Cole could have done
something. Or, of course, Cole and J.D. were wrong.
This week, either the sheriff has managed to free himself for whatever reason, or the killer now has him. |
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Posts: 1723 (06/13/09 10:21 PM) |
Since we know that henry is one year older than Abby, that is possible. Then the question would be: How did JD's parents come to adopt him?
I think danny is just a college buddy of henry's no ideas on the other groomsmen, but I think they all pretty much met off the island.
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Posts: 5021 (06/13/09 10:22 PM) Registered user |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: I dunno. I won't eliminate Cal based on that because either: a) the producers don't use a timeline and he may have killed Lucy after he was released b) or he could have easily let himself down, killed Lucy, then put himself back in the trap to make himself look innocent (well mainly to the audience) Also, do you guys think there's a possibility of 2 killers with 2 different motives? Like one is killing mainly for revenge/to get back at Abby, whereas the other is just taking advantage of the "omg there's a killer" situation/has another motive. ETA: And HELL NO if someone told me to crawl through some dark tunnels. Have these people ever watched scary movies!? DON'T SPLIT UP!
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Posts: 931 (06/13/09 10:26 PM) |
I really doubt Nikki could be the killer, although I kind of think her being the killer would be totally cool (but random as hell).
The scene when Kikki is knocking on Kelly's door and discovers Kelly dead...if she killed Kelly, would she really come running up to her door knocking for Kelly before she notified the police? I understand the theory that she could have been knocking in case anybody were still around to witness Nikki discovering Kelly to provide her with an allibi, but that's highly unlikely. I for sure thought it was Maggie until I saw her present with the rest of the group when Beth was discovered missing. Beth was with Danny and Sully until they heard Henry and Shane fight, and Maggie was present at that fight. Henry is suspicious in that he ALWAYS seems to want to go off and do things on his own, but again, he was fighting Shane when Beth was discovered missing. Also, if it's true that |
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Posts: 3094 (06/13/09 10:26 PM) Registered User |
IF we can indeed trust the producer's promise that it's only ONE killer (and is one of the 25 on the bingo card), then logistically it can ONLY be
Maggie or Nikki at this point.
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Posts: 15 (06/13/09 10:28 PM) |
I don't think Maggie is the killer (and I'm hoping she's not in on it), due to the whole Beth thing. She seems to be badly written, as you said,
Coachocd, superfluous as the owner of the inn and wedding planner. Unless, of course, she believes that the killer is outside the inn, and so, she is safe
being inside.
As for Madison's reaction to her, Madison is written as a strange girl. Maybe just a red herring. Now, in any good mystery book that has an unknown killer, the accusations will really start to fly -- kind of like some of Sully's and Shane's responses tonight. Somebody turned on Shane's truck -- I'm guessing someone outside or who knew about the secret passageways and got outside, or who had the keys. Didn't seem to be Maggie -- she gave the keys to Henry, right? Henry could be Wakefield's son -- we still don't know about his background, other than the parents were dead, but his father was alive to visit Cole seven years previously, and J.D. spent time in a mental hospital. |
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Posts: 7687 (06/13/09 10:28 PM) MESS member |
If it helps with figuring out the timing, the last time we see Beth is when she's in the kitchen. As they hear the arugment they return and beth is in the
back. The killer must have grabbed her at the some poin. But how did that not make a sound? I guess with all the commotion, no one was listening to the person
in the back.
Never be the front person or the back person when walking with a group in a horror film. Dan Down Under wrote:Even a G-rated episode of Scooby Doo will tell you that. Don't split up! I wouldn't have even followed the trail of blood.
Who knew this would become this addicting. If Nikki is the killer, then did the producers deliberately put her on Harper's Globe social networking so we could social network with the killer?
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Posts: 5022 (06/13/09 10:32 PM) Registered user |
Could the killer, instead of dragging Beth down the tunnel, just cut her and walked really slowly behind her as she crawled away, found the crawl space,
crawled into it (to get away from them) and died from blood loss?
Also, I don't see Maggie fitting into the crawl space. She's kind of a fatty. |
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Posts: 3077 (06/13/09 10:35 PM) |
Mystery Buff wrote: My theory about Malcom was the mud in the room and his shower running was something he did the night he buried Booth but was so tired that he forgot he did all those things. Like getting drunk and doing something crazy. When you wake up the next morning you're like WTF!? |
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Posts: 1724 (06/13/09 10:35 PM) |
I think shane turned on his own truck to get them outsied.
Im interested in knowing how the killer was able to strike beth hard enough to produce that much blood with nary a sound Could the killer, instead of dragging Beth down the tunnel, just cut her and walked really slowly behind her as she crawled away, found the crawl space, crawled into it (to get away from them) and died from blood loss?If that was the case shouldnt someone have heard her screaming? |
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Posts: 16 (06/13/09 10:37 PM) |
Cabnachat stated: IF we can indeed trust the producer's promise that it's only ONE killer (and is one of the 25 on the bingo card), then
logistically it can ONLY be Maggie or Nikki at this point.
I just don't think you can entirely trust that promise and, far more importantly, the sloppiness of the editing and general awfulness of the writing lead me to think they wouldn't hesitate to use even the most absurd rationalization(s) to pin it on any of the ones still left standing. Mystery Buff says: This is why I mentioned that "Cousin Ben" might be Brent from Harper's Globe. The real Ben Wellington might be wandering around the island -- he would know stuff about the island, be left alone to do his thing, have been the copycat killer on the mainland, and then get all of Wellington's money -- all by claiming that he missed the boat. I have not been keeping up with Harper's Globe. Has Brent reappeared? "Cousin Ben" easily fits the profile of "1/3 will have no idea who it is." In the first episode, "Cousin Ben" under the boat is young and dark-haired. On Harper's Globe, both Brent and Cousin Ben are dark-haired. Random groundskeeper is young-ish and dark-haired. The beauty of the killer NOT being on the bingo card, is that you don't have to worry about a timeline or who was where. |
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Posts: 108 (06/13/09 10:38 PM) |
Ok, Katherines chair was obviously booby trapped.
So here are my Top 5 suspects: Maggie: How would she know about the tunnels and when they were built? She locked all the doors to the hotel so there was only one way in and out. And the fact that Madison wouldn't look her in the eye. And Maggie was being sounded sarcastic when she was talking to her. Trish: Again, boobytrapped chair. Shes killing for the money. With the exception of Ben, Lucy, JD, and Beth, I could see a reason for her killing everyone who has died (see earlier post by me). Shea: Jealous little sister wanting to ruin her sister's wedding. She could have booby trapped the chair after that fight she had with Katherine. Cal: The way he asked about if the men caught anything, and the way he looked after that Richard died (I think), and how he convinced everyone to stay on the boat. Abby: Ok, im going out on a limb. "Its all about you". "Whoever is doing this wants ME". I think those are red herrings. I think she has a split personality. Refer to the movie "Psycho Beach Party". Whenever the girl saw a certain color, she would change personalities. I think Jimmy/Henry are trying to protect her from herself because they know. And if it truly is "All About Abby", the killer could be: Henry: Cares more about his best friend than his fiance. He knows about her past, and is killing in order to protect her. Jimmy: Is jealous of Henry/Trish and is killing everyone off so that they can live happily ever after together. Sherrif: Ok, going out on a limb again. Im saying he is REALLY Wakefield and Abby is his child, BUT he is psycho, and she is the last of his bloodline and he actually wants HER dead. Refer to the Halloween series. If any of those make sense, yay. If not, well, I tried :) |
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Posts: 17 (06/13/09 10:40 PM) |
If you think that Cal is the killer, he might have used a tranquilizer or something. Beth's lantern wasn't broken, but was laying on its side --
apparently dropped, not set down. I don't remember hearing it in the ensuing fight -- but then, we're supposed to be interested in the fight, not
noticing that Beth is not with them.
Was it Sully who asked where Beth was? |
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Posts: 932 (06/13/09 10:40 PM) |
Maggie SAID she locked all the doors to the hotel so there was only one way in and out, but she could have easily been lying--unless I missed something in the
episode.
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Posts: 7688 (06/13/09 10:43 PM) MESS member |
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Well, considering Beth's bottom half was missing, I guess not. |
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Miles Edgeworth |
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Posts: 1725 (06/13/09 10:48 PM) |
I remember it being a male voice dont know who's though Sully would make the most sense. While on the subject what the bloody hell did the killer do with her bottom half?
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Posts: 18 (06/13/09 10:49 PM) |
Thanks, Miles: I think shane turned on his own truck to get them outsied. I just checked my notes.
AlwaysAwesomeAdam said: My theory about Malcom was the mud in the room and his shower running was something he did the night he buried Booth but was so tired that he forgot he did all those things. Like getting drunk and doing something crazy. When you wake up the next morning you're like WTF!? -- Interesting! Understandermant says: So here are my Top 5 suspects: ... Trish: Again, boobytrapped chair. Shes killing for the money. With the exception of Ben, Lucy, JD, and Beth, I could see a reason for her killing everyone who has died (see earlier post by me). If it is Trish: Ben was a cousin, and therefore might inherit. Lucy might have fallen into either the killer's or one of Cole's traps (maybe Cole made the trap to trap the killer), J.D. may have suspected her and was going to tell Henry, and Beth may have seen her doing something and she became fearful and tried to stop her. (Just a thought). |
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Posts: 3096 (06/13/09 10:50 PM) Registered User |
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