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platinumtlc		#21	[-]
Posts: 8669 (03/24/09 4:35 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I have to echo whoever said there are only so many monumental globally recognized places, minus the places with travel warnings, etc.
bubbybear		#22	[-]
Posts: 3122 (03/24/09 4:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For me it's less about locations than tasks. The cheese task would've been a winner in Wisconsin. You can tailor good tasks to any location with enough creativity.
Mooyou		#23	[-]
Posts: 66 (03/24/09 8:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobVanStratus wrote: A Dying Clown wrote: This sounds like Kevin/Drew whining after All-Stars that they had to do challenging things in the Atacama Desert instead of sitting in a tea-shop in France Locations don't ean anything - it's the cast and the tasks that matter. If they stop casting showkillers like Margie/Luke and stop doing tasks that a five-year old can complete, you're guaranteed a good season. Margie/Luke are great for this season. It's teams like this that make the Amazing Race truly amazing. It's the constant casting of mactor couples like Joseph/Monica, Nathan/Jennifer, TK/Rachel, Lorena/Jason, Preston/Jennifer that are killing the show. I'm sick of seeing boring athletic couples making it to the end with no story or being one note bitchy, argumentative couples. I'm also sick of the same male/male teams that are boring that end up lasting far into the race, like Mike/Mel, Mark/Michael, Give me real drama queens like Flo that just ooze drama without being so fake. Give me real teams like Margie/Luke anyday over duds like Mike/Mel or Mark/Michael. Get rid of teams that are coming on to work on their fame. Casting teams like Mike/Mel and Romber that are going to just use TAR to push their fame ruins it. I want real drama, real family issues like Ron/Christina had. Real Family Issues = Tammy/Victor already this season... As for me the casting and challenges are second only to locations... The first thing you identify when you hear the name "Amazing Race" are the locations and countries they visit, where you may relate or want to see, because youl'd only visit those countries in your dreams...
TAR Addict		#24	[-]
Posts: 494 (03/24/09 8:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I agree with ADC and Enrico about the Mel/Mike thing. something that hasnt been done in a while, and i do not believe they are fame pushers. they are already sucessful. i feel they are doing it because they wanted to experience the world with each other. I think destinations really help make the season, but it is all about the cast. You cane have the most AMAZING destinations, but the season will fail if all teams are boring. I personally love this season, because it ISNT something you see in history books or travel guides. it is different, normal life to someone else. i find that the most fascinating
roadblocker		#25	[-]
Posts: 17263 (03/25/09 12:10 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think destinations really help make the season, but it is all about the cast. You cane have the most AMAZING destinations, but the season will fail if all teams are boring. X Case in point - TAR9 and TAR13 Both had great locations (Oman and Cambodia respectively) But both casts BOMBED. TAR9 had no likeable teams and the ones that lasted far were extremely annoying. TAR13 suffered from dud casting decisions like the canon fodder hippies (again?), Antphenie (who?), Dandrew (useless), and quite possibly the dullest parent/child team ever.
bubbybear		#26	[-]
Posts: 3124 (03/25/09 1:14 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^^ Don't forget another lame bickering couple rehash and smug, Stepford siblings who were one of the most disappointing winners in history.
supersync4d		#27	[-]
Posts: 933 (03/25/09 1:30 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	and the winner is ............
Mooyou		#28	[-]
Posts: 67 (03/25/09 3:16 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	bubbybear wrote: ^^^ Don't forget another lame bickering couple rehash and smug, Stepford siblings who were one of the most disappointing winners in history. At least the current season promises a good winner... probably the least be Mark/Michael
sunnydaysahead		#29	[-]
Posts: 1102 (03/25/09 6:13 AM) Where's the Red Bean? Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The cast is one of the best this season Father/Son who really care about each other and want to spend time together. They may be famous but neither have had it easy being gay. Siblings who love each other but have typical problems where one wants to always be in charge. Mother/Son who are out to prove that someone who has a handicap is just as worthy to experience a chance of a lifetime. Husband/Wife who had tough times but are now finding happiness during the second half of their lives. Friends who want to have fun together and race that aren't there to just further their mactor careers.
A Dying Clown		#30	[-]
Posts: 8465 (03/25/09 6:41 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Siblings who love each other but have typical problems where one wants to always be in charge. Mother/Son who are out to prove that someone who has a handicap is just as worthy to experience a chance of a lifetime. Husband/Wife who had tough times but are now finding happiness during the second half of their lives. Friends who want to have fun together and race that aren't there to just further their mactor careers. But we just had these four types in the Final 4 last season, and all of them except Toni/Dallas had much more diverse edits and significant storylines than their equivalents this time round. Even a cast that looks great on paper can end up producing few memorable moments (and aside from Mel's two Roadblock conquests, Linda getting lost and Victor's Romania freakout, there haven't been many cast-specific great moments). Last Edited By: A Dying Clown 03/25/09 6:43 AM. Edited 2 times.
Mooyou		#31	[-]
Posts: 68 (03/25/09 7:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunnydaysahead wrote: The cast is one of the best this season Father/Son who really care about each other and want to spend time together. They may be famous but neither have had it easy being gay. Siblings who love each other but have typical problems where one wants to always be in charge. Mother/Son who are out to prove that someone who has a handicap is just as worthy to experience a chance of a lifetime. Husband/Wife who had tough times but are now finding happiness during the second half of their lives. Friends who want to have fun together and race that aren't there to just further their mactor careers. I must agree with this, this season has one of the best casts ever, not only did they feature "races" from around the world - of course, they are Amercian by citizenship, but what we see this season from all the other is the dynamics, traditions, practices and ethics of these people - especially Tammy/Victor's case (I'm Asian and I could totally and really relate to them). Not the usual bitching like Kendra and Flo - which makes good tv, but sick humor. We see now real reactions and real situations. Aside from the fact that others say that within six episodes, there were less memorable moments, I would have to disagree, since I believe that The Amazing Race now is targeting the more on the locations itself, aside from the cast diversity and same old, same old bitching and fighting the whole hour of the show. At least, this cast we can say now is not mactor infiltrated.
A Dying Clown		#32	[-]
Posts: 8466 (03/25/09 7:51 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	At least, this cast we can say now is not mactor infiltrated. Mactor-filled Season 5 > almost all
Wuming Shi		#33	[-]
Posts: 4292 (03/25/09 8:00 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Charming Nemesis wrote: Eiffel Tower, Arc de Triomphe, Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Pyramids, Great Wall of China, a Colosseum, Pagoni factory, Taj Mahal, Christ statue in Rio, the Burj al-Arab sail hotel in Dubai, Petronas Towers, Venice, the Brandenburg Gate... Now they are driving snowplows in Krasnoyarsk. Seems the scouting has gone downhill lately. I think the problem might be that we have so many repeated locations though, especially from Season 13 onwards. I mean, I love India and all, but how many times do we need to visit it, or to go to boring locations? Like last season, we had two legs in Moscow, and indeed to parts of it that may not be the most exciting. With the older seasons, we had anticipation that they may visit funkier countries like Mali (Bamako, Djenne, Timbuktu, the Dogon Country) or Bosnia (Serbia, Mostar). Nowadays, we can expect that they hit up one of India/Russia/China AGAIN next season. Agreed though that the quality of tasks has gone downhill as well. We have so many generic and physical/'comedic' tasks this season.
dissimilis		#34	[-]
Posts: 6653 (03/25/09 8:00 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The order of TAR importance is: 1. Cast 2. Tasks 3. Locations I hardly ever remember the locations, I can usually remember what continent they were only but not specific countries. For instance for TAR5, which of course was an amazing amazing cast, I can remember pretty much every single task they did, but in terms of specific countries only Egypt and Russia stick out in my head. I have no idea which Asian country they were in when Colin had his Ox meltdown. In TAR3 I have no recollection of where they were when Flo had the bike meltdown, but stuff like that made the season. TAR9 definitely had an amazing race course, finally going to Greece and Japan after so many seasons but I never got to see them because I quit watching that season after 5 episodes because the cast was so hideously bad. The family edition with their awful race course was leaps and bounds better than TAR9 because the cast had some standout characters (Mama Weaver <3) TAR 8 > TAR 9
Mooyou		#35	[-]
Posts: 69 (03/25/09 8:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	A Dying Clown wrote: At least, this cast we can say now is not mactor infiltrated. Mactor-filled Season 5 > almost all I believe Season 6 was more mactor filled... Season 5 has Bowling Moms, Charla and Mirna, Jim and Marsha, Bob and Joyce, Marshall and Lance. Season 6 had Avi and Joe, Gus and Hera and Don and Mary Jean, the rest are mactors. BUT OF COURSE... No one tops the mactor infiltrated cast of TARAsia 2 and 3 (3 is rather acceptable because the season itself is entertaining)!
Mooyou		#36	[-]
Posts: 70 (03/25/09 8:20 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	dissimilis wrote: The order of TAR importance is: 1. Cast 2. Tasks 3. Locations I hardly ever remember the locations, I can usually remember what continent they were only but not specific countries. For instance for TAR5, which of course was an amazing amazing cast, I can remember pretty much every single task they did, but in terms of specific countries only Egypt and Russia stick out in my head. I have no idea which Asian country they were in when Colin had his Ox meltdown. In TAR3 I have no recollection of where they were when Flo had the bike meltdown, but stuff like that made the season. TAR9 definitely had an amazing race course, finally going to Greece and Japan after so many seasons but I never got to see them because I quit watching that season after 5 episodes because the cast was so hideously bad. The family edition with their awful race course was leaps and bounds better than TAR9 because the cast had some standout characters (Mama Weaver <3) TAR 8 > TAR 9 Let's just face that each all of the cast, location and tasks are of EQUAL IMPORTANCE. Each of them is 1/3 of the show - which sums up to a whole. At first, I thought that the locations are the first, but not. In order to produce a great and epic TAR season, there must be equal amounts of each to exist. Examples: TAR 6 had a great race route, believe me, It has one of the best. But the cast was full of mactors such that those who remained in the final legs of the race are artists pretending to be racers. Half of TAR 13's cast were not supposed to be there... half of them were very stereotypical, the locations and tasks were not as awesome as other seasons, which further implied to go down to one of the least liked seasons. TAR 14 had an excellent cast, their locations for me are breathless (Especially the Germany-Austria, I don't know why people hate that leg so much - LOVED EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT) and tasks, even though they're what they call "downhill and generic" still produces comical and good situations... Its like how could these people mess up so badly by reading a simply instructed clue? TAR 9 had an excellent race course, but bad task planning, and absofuckinlutely the worst cast ever. The locations wasn't able to pull them up for me. We got left with cassanovas and hippies and some generic couple whom we all know would place last.
A Dying Clown		#37	[-]
Posts: 8467 (03/25/09 8:40 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Season 5 has Bowling Moms, Charla and Mirna, Jim and Marsha, Bob and Joyce, Marshall and Lance. Marsha was a Pageant-Queen who likely got on because she knew TAR2 Alex and the Pizza Brothers were the biggest mediawhores ever since they only went on to promote their restaurants. It doesn't make a difference what someone's motivations for doing the show are if they're boring as hell. 1. Cast 2. Tasks 3. Locations I'd add "Editing" (or 'Story') in there too, because even a likeable cast is useless if they focus on one team or fail to build up an interesting story (which is what's happening in TAR14). We've heard of plenty of dramatic moments that ended up on the cutting room floor and pointless ones that have been blown up into major storypoints TAR13's biggest flaw was having teams that didn't engage people - but they all actually did stuff. TAR14 has "nice" people who're just 'there'. Dandrew's failures > Mark/Michael's incompetence; Kelly/Christy's comedy > Christie/Jodi's few stupid moments etc etc Last Edited By: A Dying Clown 03/25/09 8:43 AM. Edited 1 times.
Kaizer		#38	[-]
Posts: 1081 (03/25/09 8:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Charming Nemesis wrote: Eiffel Tower, Arc de Triomphe, Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Pyramids, Great Wall of China, a Colosseum, Pagoni factory, Taj Mahal, Christ statue in Rio, the Burj al-Arab sail hotel in Dubai, Petronas Towers, Venice, the Brandenburg Gate... Now they are driving snowplows in Krasnoyarsk. Seems the scouting has gone downhill lately. Well when you put it like that.
dragoondaniel78		#39	[-]
Posts: 2177 (03/25/09 8:45 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think the most important thing is ENTERTAINMENT. And this is factored on the entertainment-value of the CAST as well as the potential for TASKS to provide the necessary drama/comedy/tragedy/twist/shocker...etc TAR13 and TAR14 (to a lesser extent, so far) has had a tremendous lack of ENTERTAINMENT and tasks are so watered down and teams are also becoming less and less volatile. IT IS SO BORING and non-eventful...
dissimilis		#40	[-]
Posts: 6654 (03/25/09 9:23 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mooyou wrote: Let's just face that each all of the cast, location and tasks are of EQUAL IMPORTANCE. Each of them is 1/3 of the show - which sums up to a whole. At first, I thought that the locations are the first, but not. In order to produce a great and epic TAR season, there must be equal amounts of each to exist. Nope, not going to agree with that at all. For me its about 55% Cast/story/editing, 35% tasks and a very generous 10% for the locations.

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