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supersync4d |
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Oh please. Are you telling me that as long as they have the bestest cast ever, they could redo the TAR8:FAMILY route and it would still have a 90% chance of
being a great season? Pftt ... not freakin likely.
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dissimilis |
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supersync4d wrote: Minus the 4 people teams? Sure. I'd rather watch an amazing cast with great tasks that has great storylines but takes place in America than TAR9 which I still havent gotten all the way through til this day. TAR9 is one of two reality shows I've ever started and failed to finish. Just that and BBUK4. |
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supersync4d |
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I am absolutely not disputing the importance of a great cast and great tasks. But the fact that you're brushing off the importance of the locations, is in my opinion, absolutely ridiculous. This is afterall, The Amazing Race, what originally draws people in is the fact that they go around the world and see Amazing places that they wouldn't have had the opportunity to see or be introduced to otherwise. And to see how people like themselves interact or respond to an environment that is so different from the bubble that they usually live in. Which is a big part of what makes a cast great to begin with anyway. The different and unexpected level of appreciation, humour, enthusiasm, emphaty or even cynicism that each and every single one of them has towards different kinds of places, people and the lifestyle and traditions that they live by day in and day out. Would anyone really watch this show if it was a race around Oklahoma City? if the location only counts for 10% of importance, then surely this wouldn't matter at all. Would potentially interesting people be as interesting when racing in Frankfort Kentucky as opposed to being in Cairo, Tokyo, Beijing or New Delhi? Would more people tune in to that? Doubt it. |
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TAR Addict |
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I think that it does not matter where the race goes, as long as it is something different. Maybe I am a hardcore fan who doesnt care, idk.
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meatball77 |
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EnricoV wrote: I think part of the problem with the family edition was that it was marketed wrong. We all thought they were going to go someplace and they never did. If they'd marketed it as an american vacation edition or somthing it wouldn't have been so dissapointing. It's a great season to watch over because of the characters. |
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survivorjordancontestant |
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as a huge fan I shouldn't care about the locations but in truth, what draws normal people to TAR is the great locations. So it's definitely one of the
most important aspects of the show.
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tullfan2 |
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meatball77 wrote: Family Edition might have lasted a few seasons if it had been considered a spinoff of TAR rather than an actual season of TAR. Ideally, it could have been a summer replacement series. There were many portions of the US (West Coast, Midwest, Central Plains, Alaska, Hawaii) as well as Western Canada and Belize that could have been utilized for 2 more seasons. I'd rather watch a Family race than Big Brother during the Summer. |
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meatball77 |
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Agreed, it was a good spinoff, it just wasn't TAR.
If you're rewatching the seasons though it's one of the best because the characters are so interesting. The weavers and the palos were both fantastic. Even the teams that were more bland (like the team that won) still had fun moments |
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TAR Addict |
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500th post goes to rememberabce of Mama Weaver.
Weaver Family <3 |
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ANBU Hidden Leaf |
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supersync4d wrote:No love for America? |
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Mooyou |
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dissimilis wrote:The Amazing Race is called the Amazing Race because of the locations that they visit as well. Why did the Family Edition critically lambasted? Because of the simple line "Why are we going to Phoenix, Arizona for? I wanna go to New Zealand!" remark by Mama Paolo. Why did TAR 9 end up in haybales of every household? Because of the lame cast. All of them are of equal importance, people watch the amazing race because of the locations they want to see, as well as watch these people who voluntarily agrees to be lambasted on national television, react, score and amuse with the locals. So a 10% location? Probably not. |
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mypimpmademejoinsucks |
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the original concept of the show was a race around the world, thus making it all about locations, & the locations - in theory - were supposed to dictate
the kind of tasks the racers do, thus it's also curious & great fun to see how americans from different backgrounds react to these culturally &
geographically-based tasks.
but nowadays the tasks mostly just require physical strength, taxi luck & fear factor-y because the producers just resort to gimmicks like casts' meltdowns & handicaps. i'm not saying drama is not entertainment (who would want to see a bunch of robots), but casting some couple in relationship trouble for guaranteed screaming matches is getting real old. i found terrence from TAR 13 to be quite interesting & funny in a dry way from his interviews, but he was edited as this needy freak. it would be way much fresher if the editors didn't have to rely on the bickering couple edit all the time. btw, finding eggs & putting on a cow costume in kazakhstan?? really? i could do this in my backyard, & yet the producers were willing to go through ex-soviet bureaucracy to film this. |
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meatball77 |
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I loved the cow costume
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Zzunk |
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It would be great if TAR came through Portland again, but this time they
would require both team members to run/hike/gasp to a pit stop/route marker at the top of Beacon Rock. It has 52 switch backs, several cantilevered catwalks, and incredible 360 degree views. More importantly, the short but steep 1 mile trail to the top of this 840-foot volcanic pinnacle would surely exhaust several people and yield some Emmy winning whining. Now that's a race. |
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EnricoV |
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I don't get the need some people have for the race to literally go around the world. TAR Asia is great, and they don't go around the world. They're pretty much just traveling in the countries in which the contestants live.
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fainting goat |
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They need to go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamayev_Kurgan (as long as they don't bungee jump off the sword or something)
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Mateui |
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I think a major part of the reason why TAR doesn't feel as great anymore is the lack of cohesion between the locations and the tasks. Remember when the
tasks were actually culturally linked to the place the racers where in? Now the location is merely a backdrop for pie throwing, Segway riding, driving a snow
plow, etc - tasks that you could do almost anywhere. This just cheapens the whole experience IMO. I don't care if the cast is super amazing. If I had to
watch them do boring tasks over and over again I'd get sick of the show quickly.
I remember when the tasks used to wow me. That rarely happens anymore. |
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mypimpmademejoinsucks |
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agree, mateui. the producers seem to rely on breakdowns & meltdowns for entertainment, hence the season after season of casting bickering couples.
enrico, it doesn't have to be literally around the world. but it would be nice to have a change of culture & scenery every episode & every season. TARA is bullshit precisely because they just go round & round in their backyard ('cept maybe on season 2) with bullshit tasks & bullshit cast. |
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token lunatic |
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Charming Nemesis wrote: How about Compton in a Saturday Nite. Luke: Mom you drive, I'll ride shotgun |
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A Dying Clown |
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Remember when the tasks were actually culturally linked to the place the racers where in? Now the location is merely a backdrop for pie throwing, Segway riding, driving a snow plow, etc - tasks that you could do almost anywhere.X It seems the producers are so keen to put it "promo-worthy" moments (like TAR11's stunt-driving, the tilt-cars in TAR12, cake-throwing this season) and are ignoring things that will actually make the race interesting as a race instead of just pure spectacle (the only elimination so far to have been at all the result of tasks has been Linda/Steve - and even then that was only because the original task couldn't go as planned). Almost every decent task this season has required only the skill of "carry this heavy thing" (cheese, coffins, gypsy junk, water and hay, barrels, rickshaw) - the only exception is the wood-pile. TAR13's tasks were a step in the right direction in having a good mix of cultural/mental/physical tasks related to the country (Kazakhstan excluded). Look at TAR2's Bangkok vs. this Phuket leg. The TAR2 tasks were incredibly simple tasks: go to a market to burn a car or free some birds - but it's one of the most enjoyable episodes ever because he teams were left to fend for themselves with public transport and obscure out of the way destinations. The bat cave was far more real and "dangerous" than posed pictures with elephants - I'm sure thousands of tourists do that at Phuket Zoo but how many risk walking through hundreds of bats? But if you want solid proof that a great cast can liven up an average task compare TAR14 and TAR8. Both had nearly identical "rickshaw/buggy" tasks. TAR8, which had a good cast, produced classic moments like the amazing near-MamaWeaver-death and the Gaghans singing merrily passing the Aiellos. TAR14's produced...a penalty that made hardly any difference and someone being exhausted |
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