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cginspace		#2481	[-]
Posts: 8245 (06/18/09 3:46 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Exactly. He was lost on the dance floor, even got a few moves right on, but he had no clue how to sell it. His face was limp most of the time or fluid, where the tango demands a sharp gaze, a very solid look in the eye. It is not about puppy love... it is about desire.
NellB		#2482	[-]
Posts: 529 (06/18/09 3:48 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lil C is an idiot. That is all.
ghettofabman		#2483	[-]
Posts: 2092 (06/18/09 4:09 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cginspace wrote: Exactly. He was lost on the dance floor, even got a few moves right on, but he had no clue how to sell it. His face was limp most of the time or fluid, where the tango demands a sharp gaze, a very solid look in the eye. It is not about puppy love... it is about desire. His face was as limp as Maksim's wrists.
cginspace		#2484	[-]
Posts: 8249 (06/18/09 4:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ouch!
ashley madison		#2485	[-]
Posts: 6407 (06/18/09 4:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	NellB wrote: Lil C is an idiot. That is all. I'm convinced he comes up with his dumbass phrases beforehand and looks for places to use them. he was looking at notes last night. the labor/birth one was hilariously stupid.
cginspace		#2486	[-]
Posts: 8251 (06/18/09 4:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ashley madison wrote: I'm convinced he comes up with his dumbass phrases beforehand and looks for places to use them. he was looking at notes last night. the labor/birth one was hilariously stupid. Stop being so buckless ;)
Heliox		#2487	[-]
Posts: 2358 (06/18/09 5:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	meatball77 wrote: I don't think he sold the Tango. I care far more about dancers being able to sell me a dance (evan and randy) than to be able to do it with perfect technique.. If Phillip was a better actor the performance would have been much better. And I have a different take. They have all the training and should be able to sell it AND master the technique somewhat. That jive was horrible when compared to most of the jives presented on the show. And both of them should have been able to do much much better with it. It needs that fast kick and return which it missed. Evan turned that into a soft shoe version. Evan was early fav for me, but he blew it last night IMHO. ETA: I think that Jonathan and Karla are going home, despite the judges undeserved praise of their routine.
littltimmy		#2488	[-]
Posts: 990 (06/18/09 5:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Littletimmy...my question is, do you only want to see contemporary competitors? Because realistically there isnt going to be a home trained dancer, popper, who will be able to be at the level of a trained contemporary or ballroom dancer. I still think he did a great job and I want to see him go far in the competition. This is about FAVORITE dancer, not the best dancer necessarily right? Aren't we already seeing mostly contemporary competitors? My other question is, if Phillip is this bad at other genres, you wonder how bad some of the tappers/poppers were to have not made the top 20 this time. Or did Phillip make it because he is so popular? Anyway, this show needs versatile dancers, and sometimes the judges do go out on a limb with less trained people; sometimes it works (Dominic) and sometimes it fails (Cedric). My problem with those kinds of dancers is, when they fail, they take their partners with them; they are partner killers. I can't stand those on the show, and I haven't been able to since Faina left. Phillip, right now, is lucky he is so popular, or he would be a partner killer as well. This competition is about couples at the beginning, and I feel bad for some dancers who are dragged down by their partners (Romina, Shauna, Faina). Also, I am not asking for technical perfection, but I don't want a trainwreck either (which is what Phillip was). I'm sure there are more than a few wonderful hip-hop dancers who can be good in lyrical/ballroom routines; whether by training or by natural skill. Phillip, so far, is not one of them. Joshua had ballet training, but he was a great hip-hop dancer, and he was more than adequate in ballroom. If Phillip we're at least adequate, I would give him a pass, but he wasn't.
cginspace		#2489	[-]
Posts: 8261 (06/18/09 5:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I hope so. I actually like Karla, unlike many here; but Jonny Twinkieseed just doesn't do it for me.
Starzburst05		#2490	[-]
Posts: 1855 (06/18/09 5:36 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: meatball77 wrote: I don't think he sold the Tango. I care far more about dancers being able to sell me a dance (evan and randy) than to be able to do it with perfect technique.. If Phillip was a better actor the performance would have been much better. And I have a different take. They have all the training and should be able to sell it AND master the technique somewhat. That jive was horrible when compared to most of the jives presented on the show. And both of them should have been able to do much much better with it. It needs that fast kick and return which it missed. Evan turned that into a soft shoe version. Evan was early fav for me, but he blew it last night IMHO. ETA: I think that Jonathan and Karla are going home, despite the judges undeserved praise of their routine. Wait, so you give up on a contestant after one bum performance? Damn, that's a bit harsh. If say, he gave several shitty performances in a row, then I could understand. But only one bad performance? Okay then. I say it's too early to give up on any favorites. Each contestant has only danced two performances. So it's not surprising that contestants haven't been very consistant after only two performances. I'll wait a few more weeks before I give up on anyone I already like.
cginspace		#2491	[-]
Posts: 8263 (06/18/09 5:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One makes choices. For me, Evan is not so high up on my list. I like him, but I fail to see the magic others see. To me, I have seen guys dance like him for years. Kupono I have high hopes for, as he brings something fresh... but he has not been nearly as charming as Mark was last year, if we lump the zanies together. Phillip just, to me, proved last night that he is there because the producers wanted him there and because he has a fan base, not ncessarily because he has prowess. I really like him for what he does, but this is the wrong show for him.
micknrc		#2492	[-]
Posts: 471 (06/18/09 5:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The whole night was a hot mess, really. Easily one of the worst performance shows in SYTYCD history. A few good moments, but other than that, meh to the choreo, etc. Obvs. the choreographers are saving the better #s for top 10. As to the tango--it's no secret I'm Chbeeb's biggest fan. I honestly thought after the spoilers that the tango would be way worse than it was. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the 'competent' level. (and I found it no worse than many of last night's dances--and better than some--both hip hops esp.) I knew Nigel would call him out for his face. I've thought all along it might be Phillip's downfall. When you watch him do what he does best--it's awesome--in fact, it's what drew me to him from the start--his face shows the intense concentration that goes into his own choreo. I found his audition solo from last year so hot for that very reason--it looks like it might be his O face as well (OOO! Uh-huh, I went there--Cougarriffic!). His challenge will be to find the emotive acting quality and control in his face that some of these other dances require. Also, I like Jeanine, but let's call a chunky monkey for what it is. It was obvious the lift was modified from the rehearsal version. So he has another hurdle to overcome right there. And to the earlier comment "OMG he said he's worked on his ballroom, but he still can't do tango!" Having studied/taught ballroom in a very basic/hometown way (not claiming any great expertise) I've never seen tango offered. It's a very specialized community--one goes to tango clubs if one is interested (presuming one lives in a sufficiently large enough community that has one). Last point (swear!), we have yet to see Phillip do a solo this season. Helped his friend audition (an awesome contemporary duet, btw), but never saw him in Vegas (exc. for a split second). So I guess I understand the Phillip hate, but I would hold off until he has a chance to shine. [Sucks post] So to all the Chbeeb haterz, SUCK IT EASY, SLUTS! [/Sucks post]
cginspace		#2493	[-]
Posts: 8265 (06/18/09 5:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think most of us hate him. I think most of us (or at least I personally) think he is all wrong for this show. He deserves a platform for his own unique skills. One of the things I hate about this show, actually, is that people like Mark Kanemura and Phillip Chbeeb get very few chances to develop what they do well or show us what their true awesomeness is. IT is a shoe of turning apples to oranges, which can be entertaining and even work sometimes, but which ultimately is NOT a good vehicle for having people see excellent dance.
meatball77		#2494	[-]
Posts: 12160 (06/18/09 5:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Heliox wrote: meatball77 wrote: I don't think he sold the Tango. I care far more about dancers being able to sell me a dance (evan and randy) than to be able to do it with perfect technique.. If Phillip was a better actor the performance would have been much better. And I have a different take. They have all the training and should be able to sell it AND master the technique somewhat. That jive was horrible when compared to most of the jives presented on the show. And both of them should have been able to do much much better with it. It needs that fast kick and return which it missed. Evan turned that into a soft shoe version. Evan was early fav for me, but he blew it last night IMHO. ETA: I think that Jonathan and Karla are going home, despite the judges undeserved praise of their routine. But of the two Evan and Randy were better because they at least sold it. Were either of them in the top five couples, no but Evan and Randy were able to push ahead because they sold their dance.
mikeonfilm		#2495	[-]
Posts: 1695 (06/18/09 5:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The thing y'all have to remember is the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor so progression can be born.
cginspace		#2496	[-]
Posts: 8268 (06/18/09 5:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Buck!
ghettofabman		#2497	[-]
Posts: 2094 (06/18/09 6:02 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cginspace wrote: I hope so. I actually like Karla, unlike many here; but Jonny Twinkieseed just doesn't do it for me. Agreed. I think there is potential for her to grow, if she gotten past the void of emotion....her technical moves are decent, she just needs to get stronger. He just GOTTA GO.....NOW!!1! His stiffness is still noticeable and it is stinkin' up the joint.
cginspace		#2498	[-]
Posts: 8270 (06/18/09 6:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ghettofabman wrote: His stiffness is still noticeable... Shhhh! You gonna get Siggy all excited!
Heliox		#2499	[-]
Posts: 2359 (06/18/09 6:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Starzburst05 wrote: Heliox wrote: meatball77 wrote: I don't think he sold the Tango. I care far more about dancers being able to sell me a dance (evan and randy) than to be able to do it with perfect technique.. If Phillip was a better actor the performance would have been much better. And I have a different take. They have all the training and should be able to sell it AND master the technique somewhat. That jive was horrible when compared to most of the jives presented on the show. And both of them should have been able to do much much better with it. It needs that fast kick and return which it missed. Evan turned that into a soft shoe version. Evan was early fav for me, but he blew it last night IMHO. ETA: I think that Jonathan and Karla are going home, despite the judges undeserved praise of their routine. Wait, so you give up on a contestant after one bum performance? Damn, that's a bit harsh. If say, he gave several shitty performances in a row, then I could understand. But only one bad performance? Okay then. I say it's too early to give up on any favorites. Each contestant has only danced two performances. So it's not surprising that contestants haven't been very consistant after only two performances. I'll wait a few more weeks before I give up on anyone I already like. Oh no, I am just saying that despite liking Evan a great deal, I couldn't get past the poor performance in the jive. He will be there for another week, but this jive disappointed me as I thought he would do much better. Littletimmy, I do agree to some extent. But I think you would be very hard pressed to find a popper as good as Philip who would be good at other styles. And I definitely think you are right about the partner killer. But Philip will easily make it to top 10, I believe, unless he absolutely blows chunks the next few weeks. It was good to hear and see the 'random draw' of dance styles for the couples. Did they say that is what happened in the first show?
micknrc		#2500	[-]
Posts: 472 (06/18/09 6:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One of the things I hate about this show, actually, is that people like Mark Kanemura and Phillip Chbeeb get very few chances to develop what they do well or show us what their true awesomeness is. IT is a shoe of turning apples to oranges, which can be entertaining and even work sometimes, but which ultimately is NOT a good vehicle for having people see excellent dance. I agree, and it's a rilly big shoe (/Ed Sullivan), but on the flip side, as Nigel likes to point out, the "journey" or "birth" if you will (LOL) is what THEY (nigel, et al.) think the the show is about. I guess my point is that we haven't even seen an iota of Pacman's stuff yet. I mean he was good in the Nap/Tab last week, but again---WEAK CHOREO! But of course, the same can be said for alot of the top 18. I just think the tango is a truly niche dance, even among standard ballroom choices. It was good to hear and see the 'random draw' of dance styles for the couples. Did they say that is what happened in the first show? They've always acted as if this is the case, but the conspiracy nuts like to dream, i.e. how does no pair ever pull the same genre 2 weeks in a row, hmmmmmm? (tinfoil beanie firmly in place)

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