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This one's ok but, like Crap, I liked last year's version. That one had several little groups set up each in their own area, to survive as best they could, depending on themselves and their own skills. This year's version makes it only as good as what the 'weakest' one can take, which is probably why the experienced people bailed on it. A bright spot though, IMHO, has been Carolyn, who has come thru with some mad skills for a city lawyer - field dressing & butchering a gopher, putting together a camp meal that everyone could eat with very limited supplies. And made a pretty fast recovery from being sick, without a lot of whining (at least what we could see.) I think it will go better for them, now that the older guy (John?) is gone - he really held them back. It's good to see the women holding their own, shooting food, etc.