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I just realized, if Lil goes home then S8 is the first season without... |
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Posts: 292 (04/22/09 4:20 PM) |
Diva in the Top 5.
Maybe people have realized that divas arent to successful or maybe Lil just sucks (I guess its the latter). And Anoop could become to first person to be eliminated in the pimp spot before a multi-song round. |
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Posts: 24284 (04/22/09 4:24 PM) Registered user |
Hey... you reminded me... isn't there some sort of "American Idol Firsts" thread, or am I thinking Survivor?
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5090 (04/22/09 4:24 PM) Registered User |
Just to be clear, are you using Diva as a synonym for black woman? IMO, Vonzell and Syesha most definitely were not divas. Hell, I'm not sure that Tamyra
even fits the bill (unless Kelly was the diva in question that year).
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Posts: 9850 (04/22/09 4:33 PM) |
Uh, Tamyra was the first DIVA that paved the way for the rest of the screwed over diva's in Idol history.
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Posts: 5793 (04/22/09 4:40 PM) |
We'll still have Danny's diva attitude to look forward to.
Hopefully not, though. |
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Posts: 529 (04/22/09 5:02 PM) Registered User |
diva: a usually glamorous and successful female performer or personality <a fashion
diva> ; especially : a popular female singer
<pop divas>
By that definition Adam out-divas every AI diva who ever diva-ed. |
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Posts: 505 (04/22/09 5:08 PM) |
Drew B wrote:Let's be clear then, and say that if Lil gets the boot, this will be the first top 5 without a black woman. I mean, that's not that hard to say. The producers really fuckd up by putting all their eggs in Lil's basket. She sucks, and it was obvious she sucked all through the auditions (starting with her first audition). Lil got to the top 36 riding a tornado, plain and simple. |
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Us Kids Know |
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Posts: 10419 (04/22/09 5:09 PM) Registered user
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GrenadeJumper85 wrote:lol Name one single diva who got "screwed over" in a season where another diva didn't win and explain said screwage. And Kelly was better than Tamyra. |
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Posts: 15837 (04/22/09 5:16 PM) AI Forum Moderator |
Hanson wrote: Thank you Hanson. That's it in a nutshell. |
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Posts: 1266 (04/22/09 5:44 PM) I demand attention! |
Uh, I already pointed this out in another thread (and probably so did 10 other people). But anyway, from demographics alone Lil should have made it at least to
the top 5 in such a weak group (as Paris did in season 5 against vastly better competition). But she's the unfortunate victim of both her own mistakes and
the judge's totally unjustified confidence in her. They heard her singing Mary J Blige ("oooh, she's contemporary and commercial"), heard her
sob story, and decided then and there to pimp her. They then kept ignoring all her increasingly obvious shortcomings until somewhere around top 9 week (as they
also did with Scott and Matt, and continue to do with Danny). Putting all their eggs in one basket sums it up nicely. Actually, their adding Jasmine on
Wildcard night suggests they may have started to have doubts earlier than we are thinking.
This season is also the first to have a top 8 without any white females. The reason is simple. Megan had the demographics to last a lot longer. But, like Lil, she screwed up completely (as Haley similarly did in season 6). |
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Posts: 1653 (04/22/09 6:14 PM) Registered user |
sadllama wrote:Damn, just as I was thinking of my awesome "Danny = diva" joke too... |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5095 (04/22/09 6:16 PM) Registered User |
8trackmind wrote: Paris had the voice and the talent to EASILY justify where she ended up. Yeah, she started to implode towards the end, but she was one of the most gifted singers that year, regardless of her ethnicity. Mandisa was the one who got where she got that year because she was filling a quota of sorts. Come to think of it, Mandisa is probably the best comparison to Lil. Like Lil, Mandisa was NEVER as good as the judges said she was...u |
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Posts: 10466 (04/22/09 6:17 PM) Registered user |
Good. That means no more Whitney songs this season.
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Posts: 19332 (04/22/09 6:21 PM) Registered user |
Good. That means no more predictable diva choices this season. Lil has been the worst culprit this show has ever had for picking the most predictable diva songs and butchering them. |
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Posts: 244 (04/22/09 6:46 PM) |
Hanson wrote: I'll go you one step further, Hanson. I don't think Lil would have gotten to the top 36 even WITH a tornado if she were just a single female. It was her being a single Momma with two toddlers that did it for her. And the week that I think she should have gone home, Ryan had to pimp those two cuties out and no one could send her home after the younger one grabbed onto Randy and hugged him for dear life. Even my hard heart softened, dammit. |
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Posts: 19334 (04/22/09 6:53 PM) Registered user |
She's actually not a single mom, and she has 3 young children. She's married.
The kids + Tornado + needed a black woman/diva to fill the quotas they feel the need to work with + a decent audition = Lil make the Top 36. |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5098 (04/22/09 7:02 PM) Registered User |
I think it's simpler than that -- I think these judges legitimately don't know the difference between good singing and bad singing. When Lil screamed
Whitney in Hollywood, I think the fools GENUINELY thought it was great (having nothing to do with her race or her kids or her tornado). We tend to read so much
into these things, but really, most of it boils down to the fact that the judges have no taste.
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Hanson |
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Posts: 507 (04/22/09 7:06 PM) |
I agree. They were like, "we have this black woman who's really loud, which is good, right? But get this... her house was destroyed by a tornado! It's like printing money!" Assholes. |
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Fcuk You ywia |
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Posts: 2222 (04/22/09 7:13 PM) Registered User |
CrystalOwnage wrote: Ummm Alexis with "Dirty Diana" anyone? No? |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 5101 (04/22/09 7:14 PM) Registered User |
Fcuk You ywia wrote: That was the week Jasmine and Jorge went home. Alexis went home on country night with "Jolene". |
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Fcuk You ywia |
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Posts: 2223 (04/22/09 7:17 PM) Registered User |
LOL nevermind. I just like to imagine that Alexis went home a lot sooner than she did.
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