1. Parvati
2. Stephenie
3. Candice
4. Taj
5. Amanda
2. Stephenie
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4. Taj
5. Amanda
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Top Five Best Survivor Players to Not Win
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Posts: 277 (09/10/09 9:20 AM) |
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Posts: 7338 (09/10/09 10:14 AM) Registered User |
^ Amanda should never be on any list because the FTC is a huge part of the game of Survivor, but she can't handle it. Taj willingly gave the game to JT/Stephen and never made any inroads to break up their F2 bond. Stephenie deserved to win which season? She played a good game in S11 but completely alienated her tribemates and performed a terrible social game. Candice/Parvati both had very good shots at winning if not for the bottle twist or HII. Parv's fatal mistake was in booting Jenny at F10, who was completely loyal to her. If they had time to work it out I think that Jonathan would've gotten the boot and then there would've been a four v four at the F8 (Aitu 4 (without a HII) against Parv/Candice/Jenny/Adam). If the Raro Four stick it out, Parv is in the F3 no matter which way it shakes down, and against traitor Candice or Becky/Yul hater Jenny, she'd easily win. Dunno about against Adam. Candice's mistake was in doing the mutiny. With only two more presumable boots until the F10, she'd have outlasted Ozzy and Jonathan/Sundra - even with the bottle twist, she'd make it to the merge with Yul/Becky and then have an auto-in to the core alliance of Nate/Parv/Adam. She was a very silly girl. |
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Posts: 1979 (09/10/09 12:41 PM) |
Charite wrote: Micronesia had a Parvictory, remember? |
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3096 (09/10/09 7:45 PM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:well first off define "best player". Some may say the best player is the person that got to the end based on social politics rather than winning immunities, while others may say the best players is the person taht dominated in the challenges and made it to the end by winning tons of immunities. I dont understand how someone could be considered the best player if they didnt win, since the whole point of the game is to win. If you didnt win, then you obviously werent the person that played the best game, otherwise you would have won! |
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Posts: 1981 (09/10/09 8:28 PM) |
So you think Aras played a better game than Cirie? and Jenna M played a better game than Rob? and Bob played a better game than anyone?
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Posts: 7358 (09/10/09 10:16 PM) Registered User |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:Yes. |
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nordicsurvivor |
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Posts: 390 (09/11/09 5:32 AM) Registered User |
Aras and Cirie played similar games
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Posts: 1986 (09/11/09 7:40 AM) |
unduli clone wrote: 
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3098 (09/11/09 3:30 PM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:yes. but i guess with sucks logic it depends on your definiiton of best/better game. imo it shouldnt even be up for debate because logic would tell you that the best player was the person that won. Cirie didnt even make it to final 3, she had final four tribal and final three tribal to get past before shed even be in contention so saying she was a better player than aras is just a stupid comment to make (no offense). As far as jen and rob...isnt it robs responsibilty as a player to convince jenna to bring him to the end? He didnt do that and was voted out. Just because you dont win final immunity doesnt mean its the end of the game, you still have the ability to convince/manipulate the immunity wearer to bring you to the end with them. In Gabon sugar pissed off jury members while she was in the game and then at final tribal barely tried to get there votes- she barely answered charlies question and waht she did say was stupid and then she argued with randy instead of trying to get his vote, however difficult taht may have been. Susie admitted at final four tribal that she doesnt do much so if theres a guy like bob that the jury percieves as having done much (won challenges, hard worker etc) hes probably going to get there votes. |
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Posts: 1994 (09/11/09 3:49 PM) |
Jenna would've had to have been a complete idiot to take Rob to the Final 2 over Matt. She made the right choice, as evidenced by her 6-1 win.
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3100 (09/11/09 6:23 PM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:uh ya, but you didnt ask me about her decision you asked me if rob was a better player than her or not, so whats your point? I think i have a better way of explaining my stance by asking you this...if you were to play the game would your goal be to win or to be the best player? |
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Posts: 2001 (09/11/09 7:28 PM) |
My goal would be to win, but just because I do win, doesn't make me the best player.
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Posts: 2275 (09/11/09 7:48 PM) Registered user |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: But it does mean you would have played the best game. |
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Posts: 2004 (09/11/09 7:55 PM) |
No, it doesn't. You can win completely by accident as evidenced by Bob.
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Posts: 2276 (09/11/09 8:03 PM) Registered user |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: Which is obviously what it took to win Gabon. Say what you want about Bob as a player but he did what was needed to win Gabon, and if that was win a few challenges, be likable and helpful around camp, ride coattails, etc...it was the best game to win Gabon (evidence by him winning the whole thing). There are some strategies or lack there of that will be complete crap in one season and masterful in another. Bob played the best game in Gabon, but that doesn't mean he was the best player because the best player is a matter of opinion for the most part. |
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Posts: 2006 (09/11/09 8:37 PM) |
We obviously have completely different views on what is good gameplay.
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Posts: 2277 (09/11/09 8:47 PM) Registered user |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: I've never stated what I think is good gameplay...Bitch you crazy.. Brian Heidik is a better player than Bob imo, but I don't think Brian could have won Gabon. I never said Bob was the best player, I said Bob played the best game..there actually is a difference there. Having said that, I honestly do feel like the only area Bob was really bad at was Strategically. He was great around camp, he was likable to most so his social game wasn't total crap obviously. Is Bob a good player? Well that depends on who you're asking and the value that person puts on each aspect of his game. |
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3103 (09/12/09 6:20 AM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: If two 20 different strategies/types of gameplay all produce a winner, none are better, they all worked! |
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3104 (09/12/09 6:21 AM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: you keep making this statement but give zero reasoning why. Why do you think winning doesnt make someone the best player? |
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 3105 (09/12/09 6:24 AM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:How did bob win by accident. Was it just an accident that he won more immunities than everyone else? Was it just an accident that he worked hard around camp and treated people nicely, therby gaining the respect of his peers? Was it just an accident that sugar liked him so much that instead of voting against him at final four she voted with him? Two major components of this game are socialization and challenges. Bob was better than susie and sugar in both ways! |
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