I would have say Lill.... she owned Savage, Burton and Fairplay.
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Who is the most underrated player ever?
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Posts: 862 (10/26/09 05:12 PM) Registered user |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 14122 (10/26/09 05:14 PM) |
Never gets any credit for playing a solid, awesome game because people were so enamored with fucking Neleh. |
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Maniacboy888 |
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Posts: 2877 (10/26/09 05:17 PM) Registered user |
I'd say Amber, even though I can't stand her
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Posts: 254 (10/26/09 05:18 PM) |
Probably not the most underrated, but I think Tracy fits this category.
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Posts: 14124 (10/26/09 05:20 PM) |
I don't think Tracy is underrated at all. I think most people could see that she was a good player that just got dealt a crappy ass hand.
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Posts: 101 (10/26/09 05:41 PM) |
brilliant strategist, maybe if she bragged like Russell it would go noticed |
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Posts: 1558 (10/26/09 05:48 PM) |
Hm, hard to choose one. ITA with Vecepia being underrated as a player, even if I personally dislike her. I think Tom is very underrated as well (on sucks), he doesn't get enough credit for his social/strategic game. Scout too, she was a physical liability as well as a jury threat, and she probably would have won Vanuatu if the last IC didn't favour males so heavily. I should probably mention players like Amber/Amanda/Parv too. Obviously they have a lot of fans, but the amount of bashing their gameplay gets is kinda
ridiculous when they clearly are all solid players.
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Posts: 14128 (10/26/09 06:09 PM) |
ilovekelly752 wrote: 
Okay no. She was hardly a brilliant strategist and seemed like for a good majority of the game she was just a hanger-on to the Jalapao 3. Then she maneuvered herself into a position where there was no way she was going to get to the F2 unless she won immunity. Yea, definitely a brilliant player. 
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Posts: 1563 (10/26/09 06:16 PM) |
Also, Erinn had a dreadful social game and would probably have lost to everyone except Sierra in the finals anyways (well maybe she could have had a shot vs
Brendan/Taj, depends on how much their money would have played in).
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GabrielP |
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Posts: 401 (10/26/09 06:17 PM) |
Kelly Czarnecki, one of the greatest players of all time! <3 |
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toomanynachos16 |
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Posts: 461 (10/26/09 06:17 PM) Registered User |
I think Chris gets trashed way too much here...I still feel like the key to turning the game had just as much to do with Chris' friendship with Julie as
Twila's gameplan did...
Also, Chris managed to unite the Fat 5, and keep a bickering Rory-Sarge together through three tribal councils. He played the ladies well, and they all fell under his charms. |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 14130 (10/26/09 06:18 PM) |
Yea, no she probably would have lost to everyone. No one on her own tribe liked her at all.
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Edinboro |
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Posts: 5228 (10/26/09 06:20 PM) |
Perhaps you should start a blog.
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Posts: 2797 (10/26/09 06:32 PM) Registered user |
Amanda and Cirie called Tracy "underrated" during the Micronesia torch walk and Jeff called her "underrated" at the reunion. This by
default makes Tracy adequately rated, if not overrated.
I would say Lillian doesn't get half the credit she deserves. Yes, she was an Outcast and was part of an unfair twist, but she played the cards she was dealt brilliantly. I'll also agree with those who call Tom underrated. He did more than just win challenges. The man could have probably won the game even if Koror hadn't dominated the way it did. |
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Posts: 1035 (10/26/09 06:49 PM) |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Uhhhh, WTF!? She made the absolute BEST out of a VERY BAD situation. She was the next to go simply because she befriended the girl everyone disliked. She then played huge roles in the Timbira immunity wins until the merge. She then knew she was on the very bottom of the Timbira 6, and knew she had to do something about it, so she flipped. She went from the bottom of an alliance of 6, to the bottom of an alliance of 4. At the final four she was literally milliseconds away from winning immunity. Even when she WASN'T immune at the F4, she was able to persuade JT and Stephen to break up one of the most closest alliances in Survivor history, the Jalapao 3. We also knew that if Stephen had won immunity, he WOULD have taken Erinn. So Erinn went from someone who was going to get the boot on day 9, to someone who was the one immunity challange away from winding up in the finals, whether her or Stephen won it. The only reason she was booted at the F3 was because it was JT's decision. ERINNOWNAGE <333333333 |
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Posts: 1736 (10/26/09 07:03 PM) |
Erinn Lobdell <3 Definitely underrated
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Posts: 9631 (10/26/09 07:08 PM) |
Erinn is so outrageously overrated here at Sucks that it makes me kinda dislike her. As Stephen posted details of over in Spec, she's not as great of a
player as people seem to give her credit (and worship her) for. She apparently would've lost to almost everyone in the post-merge, with Sierra being the
exception because it could've gone either way by one vote.
As for underrated, I'd say.. Scout or Cassandra. |
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Posts: 102 (10/26/09 07:10 PM) |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: The only way she wouldn't have won in the final three was if JT won immunity and he did. Stephen said he would've taken Erinn, and she almost had JT convinced to take her anyway. Taj and Sierra said they would've voted for her, and Brendan probably would've too. She only would've needed one more vote, and Coach was so mad at Stephen, he might've done it. She was the first target to go home after Candice, and she convinced Sierra and Brendan to vote out Jerry. Then she made an alliance with the other tribe, and still let her own tribe think they could control her, while she initiated the blindsides. She would give subtle clues to whoever was in control, and 9 times out of ten, they did what she wanted. Unfortunately, that tenth time was with JT, and like I said, he almost still kept her. She was the real person in control that season, and none of the players, and very few viewers, noticed it. Just listen to what she says in each episode to whoever's in control, and look at who goes home in that episode. The eliminations of Candice, Brendan, Sierra, and herself were the only TCs she took part in where she didn't initiate the elimination. |
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Posts: 103 (10/26/09 07:14 PM) |
tomash wrote: Why do you say that? Sierra, Taj, and Brendan loved her. That's 3/7 voters right there. Sierra got into that fight with her, but the episode after that showed that they were friends. If Stephen would've won, and voted out JT, then JT and Coach would both have been mad at him for voting them out, and one or both of them could've voted for Erinn. |
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Posts: 1036 (10/26/09 07:16 PM) |
kenc333 wrote:I don't think you can say anyone would've beaten anyone until they make their FTC arguments. There have been really good players who easily could have won (and easily deserved) to win, but it all came down to the FTC *cough* Amanda *cough*. I definitely agree with Cassie though. Totally underrated. <333333333 |
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