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ShanesThinkingSeat wrote:

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In my opinion, if someone NEEDS to rely on immunity streaks to stay afloat in the game, that player doesn't deserve to win.

So, in your opinion once your allies are gone you should just accept your fate and not try for immunity and let yourself get voted out. If Colleen or Stephanie had gone gone on an immunity run to the final 2 to save themselves in Borneo & Palau, you probably would not be saying that.

Thailandsurvivor wrote:

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shibbysweet wrote:

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ShanesThinkingSeat wrote:

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In my opinion, if someone NEEDS to rely on immunity streaks to stay afloat in the game, that player doesn't deserve to win.

So, in your opinion once your allies are gone you should just accept your fate and not try for immunity and let yourself get voted out. If Colleen or Stephanie had gone gone on an immunity run to the final 2 to save themselves in Borneo & Palau, you probably would not be saying that.

It's not that you should not try. It's that there are other ways to save yourself. Colleen actually succeeded, and Kelly would have left had anyone else won immunity. For example, Fairplay proved multiple times that you don't need immunity to stay in the game when your back is against the wall. If you really want to be impressive, use your social and strategic game to make it even further than just one round.

Yes, but once Kelly was gone, there would not have been enough negotiating or playing to save herself afterwards. She would have had to rely on immunity afterwards as she had alot of allies in the jury. Terry was the same way, he had allies in the jury and was an immunity threat, there was no way he could make an alliance with anyone in Casaya. Brett had the same problem, if Russell had of helped him get to final 3, Brett would have won and Russell would have looked stupid. Sometimes immunity streaks are your only move to save yourself, Jenna won because of her Immunity streak at the end.

ShanesThinkingSeat wrote:

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shibbysweet wrote:

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ShanesThinkingSeat wrote:

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In my opinion, if someone NEEDS to rely on immunity streaks to stay afloat in the game, that player doesn't deserve to win.

So, in your opinion once your allies are gone you should just accept your fate and not try for immunity and let yourself get voted out. If Colleen or Stephanie had gone gone on an immunity run to the final 2 to save themselves in Borneo & Palau, you probably would not be saying that.

Not at all (besides I rooted for Rudy S1 and Tom S10). If your allies are gone, the only way I think a player can possibly deserve to win is if they find a way to survive in the game other than an immunity streak. Such as what Chris/Danni were able to pull off. They were able to get back into the game and come out on top without NEEDING to reel off 3-4 IC wins in a row. (Granted, Chris won 3 of the last 4, but only truly need one of those).

Chris & Danni got alot of help to make it to the final 3, Danni won immunity at final 6 then got lucky because Rafe was mad at Cindy for not giving away the cars, then got lucky again because Rafe was scared of Lydia winning the final 3 immunity. Danni didn't need to do anything accept let Rafe destroy his alliance. Chris got lucky because the women turned on each other. If the dominant alliance was determined to Pagong the losing tribe, then Danni and Chris would have been voted out unless they won immunity.