they got the arrow and used it when they were on kobol when that room inside the building took them to what seemed like stonehendge. They used it so dont say they didnt.
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 Aqua D Flame |
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Posts: 1317 (01/26/06 1:08 PM) |
Quote: Are you watching the same show Sue? As I remember the chips wern't down at all. He built the ship as more of a release, they never even used it that episode except to fly it and make sure it worked. The reason it was stealthy(better) was a fluke because they ran out of materials to use for the shell and went with the graphite or whatever it was. Not to mention, I can only think of one star trek storyline where they built a ship to be better than the aliens and that wasn't until Voyager. |
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Posts: 318 (01/26/06 1:18 PM) Registered User |
Am I the only one who thinks that Baltar is hot? (Maybe it is just James Callis). English accent, longish hair with a curl, genius, yummylicious chest hair.
So what if he is as crazy as a loon? |
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hammerbutt |
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Posts: 774 (01/26/06 1:43 PM) I need a hobby |
Unless that cylon blood starts mutating the Prez in some way I have to agree it was a lazy writing move.
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Sue5858 |
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Posts: 4247 (01/26/06 1:51 PM) Registered User |
it doesn't matter how they spin it in the writing. It the same old "miraculous" ship storyline that is played out over and over again in Star Trek. These writers need to come up with new ideas.
The arrow was used. Seemed a bit corny to me, but it was used. How the hell the folks on Kobol would know what the stars looked like from the place where the earth tribe would eventually land, wasn't explained. But here, I will give them a plot hole or two. They really need (and needed) to move forward on the Earth storyline. I think it would be interesting if they allowed them some progress towards Earth. Right now it seems like they dropped Earth from the storyboard altogethger - it hasn't even been mentioned in episodes. Instead they just seem to be randomly moving around, even though they now have the map. (They could have had some cool stuff about telling all the warrior types of Pegasus how the holy books were true, etc.) I also think they need to explain the baby a bit more. Too much shadowy stuff, but not enough plot line. IMO when you write for these shows they should have a destination in mind for their stories. So far, this show hasn't IMO. It may be enough to satisfy some - but not me. Other shows like this IMO are the X-files or Lost. There's no destination in mind - they just keep making more and more and more crap up to keep people watching - but they have no way to tie it together. Contrast that with a show like Babylon5. Lots of mysterious stuff happened, but at the end of the day it all tied together. Obviously, Lost and X-files get (and got) gangbuster ratings - so plenty of viewers are satisfied by that kind of writing - I'm not. Give me a low budget series that goes somewhere with its storyline - and I'll watch! |
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zaphrella |
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Posts: 514 (01/26/06 1:51 PM) Registered User |
I have to agree. They have put in all the hokey predictable plot devices. I was fine with a few showing up sometimes but this is ridiculous.
Since the cylon blood did something to her cancer cells, it leaves the door open to the blood making more changes in her. Maybe even eventually killing her eventually if they want to go that route. I will be very disappointed if they treat toaster jr as a messiah. The mormon theology in the series is hokey enough without that trite device. Why do some SF shows go that route? It's not ground breaking or profound. It's lazy and hokey. I lost interest in 4400 when they pushed that with supermiraclealienbaby. I'm going to go watch my Babylon 5 tapes. |
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Posts: 818 (01/26/06 6:07 PM) Registered User |
Quote: there is a hole in your mind Quote: for the record I believe V was the first modern SF to go down that road and it is when I stopped watching. |
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Aqua D Flame |
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Posts: 103 (01/26/06 10:23 PM) |
Mormon theology....do you not atch the same show?
Battlestar has a basis of almost every religion on earth on the show. And just to you people saying things have been done before like on star trek...well duh, there is only so much people can do in space. If battlestar did it before ST you'd be saying the same thing. |
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Posts: 1317 (01/27/06 3:16 AM) |
If you ever get the chance to read anything from the writer's and producers you'll see that the program is about humans vs. themselves more than the cylons. The cylons are there more as a plot device to push them into situations that will test them. Like the different ways Adama and Caine had in handling the civilians and prisoners. It's more of a social commentary in space with kick ass special effects than a space shoot 'em up with a storyline.
Personally, I hope they don't find earth any time soon. This is much more fun to watch than a bunch of super kids jumping into 40 foot trees or onto roof tops. I can see how you could be upset with them not even mentioning earth in the last couple of episodes but to be fair, they have had issues to deal with. I'm sure they are still headed in the right direction, they just aren't giving us updates on the trek to earth every week. |
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Sue5858 |
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Posts: 4247 (01/28/06 4:25 PM) Registered User |
Yesterday's episode was too borring even to watch in its entirety. If they moved the plot foward any, I missed it as I liberally used my 30 second forward jump button on my TiVo.
I'm now supposed to believe a population of just 50,000 humans has a severe child prostition problem? Ok, whatever. Nasty people these colonists, apparently. Much more devient than the average. If I want to watch well written TV about sexual deviants, I'll stick with Law & Order SVU. Seeing it on Battlestar Gallatica? whatever... They can't seem to decide what this show is about. I guess it is turning into "human weakness" of the week storyline. Previously it was rape (is it ok to rape a toaster), this week it is pedophilia and blackmarket. Next week, god knows. This is in danger of getting deleated from the TiVo. A series has to be about something - this one has lost all focus - it's like it has no clue why it is even on the air anymore. BTW - why didn't the president's population total go over 50,000 with the addition of Pegasus? Doesn't it take hundreds, if not thousands, to run such a ship? I guess that's neither here nor there. |
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jfk3674 |
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Posts: 446 (01/29/06 12:31 PM) Registered User |
I agree it was lame. Did they ever build up this survivor's guilt apollo had before? I dont recall him loosing the love of his life on Caprica.
Also since the shower scene last season it looks like he skipped a few work outs, and gave up the razor. If they are going to make him the male eye candy, then he needs to keep up appearances. |
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Piranhahaha |
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Not only do I recall no build-up about this blond on Caprica, but I don't recall any budding romance between Apollo and Dee. I just recall her having the hots for Billy.
I didn't think it was that bad of an ep, though. It had a bit of a Bladerunner vibe, checking in on the squalid conditions of the scenario. The show is defintely wandering, I hope it finds direction -- the production values are too good to let the writing staff kill it. Loved it when Apollo shot that bastard, though. "You're not like your" BAM! |
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Posts: 318 (01/30/06 4:36 PM) Registered User |
The podcast from RDM shows that RDM agreed that this past epi, with Apollo, sucked. Sucked big time. The only part I liked was that Baltar seemed to have found his spine- it should be good to see him go up against Roslin.
I like Roslin so much that I don't mind her miraculous resurrection. And it throws off the whole prophecy that a person with a fatal disease will lead the humans to earth if she is fulled cured BUT there is always a chance the cancer can come back. And, since her treatments, now she knows more about Baltar being involved with Six on Caprica. |
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Aqua D Flame |
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Posts: 103 (01/30/06 9:20 PM) |
Dee and Lee have sexual tension between them....did you not see the episode where they were sparing with each other and throughout that episode there was dee listening to lee talk to kara, and you could tell she was just listening because she wanted to be with lee?
Do you people even watch all the shows...make sure you watch every episode before you start critisizing it Honestly this is the second time in less than a week i have had to come reply here....first someone said the arrow wasnt used....then people saying there has never been anything between dee and lee |
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Piranhahaha |
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That was me on both occasions.
When I bitched about the arrow, of course I remember that they used it to get the map to Earth; what I more accurately was bitching about was that, having gone to all the trouble to get the arrow off of Caprica and then get the map, how come they're not using the map? The entire arrow & map storyline has evaporated. Meanwhile, now that you mention it, I vaguely recall sexual tensions b/t Lee & Dee, but nothing was ever spoken about it. When Dee confronted him during the workout asking point blank if their relationship was heading anywhere, it was if their tensions had blossomed into a romance, to the point where Dee's asking about his intentions, which to my mind, came out of nowhere. Hell, I even liked the last ep. |
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JetBlak21 |
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Posts: 800 (01/31/06 12:09 AM) Registered User |
From what they implied, the map only gives them a rough idea where to go. It's kind of like saying "Go to California" when you're looking for a particular town. That's not a lot to go on but it's better than nothing.
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zaphrella |
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Posts: 514 (01/31/06 8:06 AM) Registered User |
>Honestly this is the second time in less than a week i have had to come reply here<
Who the hell are you and why the hell do you think you 'have' to do anything? Hello obsessed BG fan. Out on the real life side of BG conventions, you're going to find people discussing this with different opinions. Do some homework about mormonism and you'll see a lot of their doctrine infused in BG. The new series has less of it than the original's theological sledge hammer. One thing the original BG didn't do is give the toasters any religion past the devil's leadership. I find it interesting that in BG, the reincarnation, the "good" guys have many gods and the 'bad' guys are monotheists. Is that a not so subtle slap in the face to today's monotheistic religious believers, ie. the hated by Hollywood, Christians? As to what's the point of the show? Most SF is billed as an inner struggle despite outward settings. It doesn't mean the writers are succeeding in portraying that or portraying that well. People reading or watching any SF will pull a different interpretation from it. The show had a direction last season, a hokey one pulled straight from the corny original series but it was an improvement on the original series. It's introducing some twists, but introducing them poorly, imo. The plot devices are really becoming annoyingly obvious in their triteness and simplicity. Hopefully we'll look back at the end of the season and see that there is a story arc that puts some continuity and sense into the "why is that episode there" or "the miracle save of the week" problems. I'm glad Apollo finally showed some balls. It looked like he was going more wussy than he already was. The body definitely needs to work out some. At least he's all space-pasty pale and isn't suntanned like some of the other actors on the series. Did they take their sunbeds into space with them? |
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mutantmagnet |
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Posts: 482 (01/31/06 1:06 PM) |
There definately is a lack of focus problem with Galactica. The blonde who died on Caprica and the hooker was actually featured since season 1 but the director and editor decided to throw all of these pieces out due to space constraints. It's understandable that removing these pieces would allow episodes to retain better focus but to throw out what essentially is the climax from all those deleted pieces is sort of dumb editting and direction. But while I understand this being an inherent problem it hasn't stopped me from enjoying ths show to its fullest.
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hammerbutt |
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Posts: 774 (01/31/06 1:40 PM) I need a hobby |
I don't see a problem with the way the Arrow was handled. The Arrow showed them the galaxy that earth is in but it didn't tell them how to get there so they have to try and figure out where those stars are. Kind of a crap shoot considering the universe is infinite and all but I'm sure they'll come across an ancient signpost sooner or later. I think any episode that tries to flesh out Apollo's character is going to be weak because the guy has the acting range of a sack of potatoes.
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Levdrakon |
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Posts: 379 (01/31/06 10:18 PM) |
I thought the arrow was OK, but what happened after that was just weird. Holodeck? At least they sorta explained how they might have a clue as to where Earth is. There was a well-known astronomical thing they recognized. Some nebula or something, but they know that nebula is visible from Earth, so it gives them a teensy bit to work with.
But doesn't Ron Moore like to natter on in his blogs & podcasts about how his show is so different from Star Trek? I guess it is. "You see, if a human's blood looks like this, and the baby's blood looks like this - it will cure Roslyn's cancer!" Yup, that's not like Star Trek. ST would have had cooler sounding & slightly more plausible technobabble. This last ep, I was looking forward to the long-awaited finding out more about how the regular people in the fleet are doing. Well, they sleep with hookers and sell their kids into child exploitation. I guess you should be careful what you wish for. Almost makes you want the Cylons to come back and finish the job this time. They wanna breed with these scumbags? How about telling us where all the fraking food is coming from? If it turns out they've got food replicators I'm going to have to invent new expletives for Mr. Moore. I'm also curious what they're gonna do with the Pegasus. Totally puss-out and have Gina blow it up? |
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