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Clarence was totally unexpected. But great work beatles! I enjoyed reading your list.

Now, will you please start, in my honor, the 30 Greatest Stephenie LaGrossa moments?

Glad you liked it! But as far as Steph goes, do you think 30 would be enough? My Guatemala episodes aren't in the greatest shape (still stuck on a VHS tape) but I'll see what I can do.

That's an oxymoron, right?

Jenna Lewis jokes never get old. I'll try and get those jury questions out to you by the end of the weekend if not sooner.

Chris is TOTALLY underrated. I mean, the guy lost to LEANN for crying out loud.

In what? A popularity poll? I didn't really take those into account (at least, I didn't look at any while planning) since the more polarizing the contestant (Boston Rob, Chris, Tom Westman for some reason), the more likely they are to get beaten out by contestants like Leann, who doesn't have a huge number of supporters but certainly not many people have anything against her. I can only imagine how great but despised characters like Lex and Rupert fare in those things. That's not a case of people finding Diane or Tijuana more entertaining; it just means that people can't stand Lex and Rupert.

U is for Underwater loss to Greg. Had that not happened, Kelly wins Borneo.

I like that, thanks!

BTW, I will officially support TS's juror speech rankings over PT's because PT considers Sierra a butterface

Yeah, but you put hated characters on the list too, people like Brandon.

Right, but just because a character is hated doesn't necessarily mean they're underrated. Most viewers despised Rich and Sue when Borneo was airing and Jerri a season later, but even their biggest haters would've been lying if they said they were anything less than incredibly entertaining. And for a more recent example, as unpopular as Randy was, I don't think anyone could imagine Gabon without him. Then you have people like Brandon or Roger from Amazon, who are pretty hated, but it almost seems like people just think "I hated Brandon when Africa aired, I don't exactly remember why, but I still hate him." He was incredibly entertaining but the only time he's ever acknowledged is when people are giving him 1s in popularity polls.

And you put Frank on the list because he lost to Silas.

That's a fair point; I'll give you that one. I still have no idea how Silas won that one by such a giant margin. But in my defense, Frank is hardly as acknowledged a contestant as Chris is. Everybody knew there were Chris detractors before the survey; there was no indication that Frank was so massively despised, enough to be beaten by Silas of all people. Maybe there really are that many fans who dislike Frank, but it came so out of nowhere that the only explanation I could think of is that people had forgotten about him. As I said, Frank was literally the last person I added to the list and I'll admit that the catalyst was that survey. Before that I tried to avoid taking pure popularity into account, although I guess you could argue that Savage and Osten may have broken that rule somewhat (although I still stand by their entertainment value being under-appreciated).

I think that the pre-All-Stars bias is highly apparent on Sucks, and the pro-female bias is equally apparent, hence why people like Tom and Chris and Earl get the most hate, despite being pretty good players and decent guys.

I agree on all these counts. In fairness, I definitely have a pre-ASS bias and do tend to be biased in favor of the males actually, which respectively probably explain why the entire top six on my list is pre-ASS players (although they only have a slight edge when you count the total list) and, combined with Sucks' pro-female bias, why there are more than three times as many men on the list as there are women.

Yul is the most overrated winner.

...And here is where I get murdered for saying it's Sandra.