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RussellsHiddenIdol	The Sophie G. Clarke Edit	Lead	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 05:00 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Kim is getting the Sophie G. Clarke edit. Is anybody else realizing this beautiful symmetry with last year's season? Sophie was never portrayed in a negative light when it came to her strategy. Every edit displayed a calm, confident woman who always had a broader perspective of where the game would take her (although, as I discuss later, was hid from the viewer). This is exactly how Kim has been portrayed. Her quote "time will tell" within the first episode made me about poop myself and then it followed with her winner's confessional where she gave a Sophie-esque like summary of the tribe dynamics in the confident and almost better-than-the-elements-of-the-game-like manner i.e. ("All the women were like "women power," which I'm not really a big fan of, but I'm going with it.") It seems to be the one element in editing that gives the winner away to me. It is the editors ability to show the player with the skill of adaptability. Within the first episode, Sophie says something to the extent of Coach is arrogant and loves to talk about himself, but he is also valuable in this game and I can use him to my benefit. This seems to be the same feel the editors were going with Kim in her first confessional. There is the one main difference I see that lies in their editing. We were never given an idea about where Sophie was heading and what her thoughts were for down the road. It was always just "sticking with the plan." I think this difference is largely due to the negative comments about Sophie's horrible edit. I had to listen to her brilliant strategy in post-show interview to get a sense about the caliber of player that she was. It could be that Kim experiences the same social dynamics that were present with Sophie, and the editors have chosen to edit Kim in this same manner (since we already know they have a difficult time editing women), but have chosen to give the viewer more insight into her strategy than they did with Sophie in order to create a more memorable and understandable win. It is also interesting that Sophie has endorsed Kim as her pick for the winner.
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evans992		#1	[-]
Posts: 1 03/09/12 05:16 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Where has Sophie supported Kim? I've only seen her power rankings.
LooneyTunes		#2	[-]
Posts: 1107 03/09/12 05:25 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sophie was giving the edit she got because out of the final 3 with Coach and Albert, She was more tolerable. Sophie played a good strategic game and her edit was subdued a bit due to Ozzy-Brandon-Coach screen time. Her season was heavily male dominated and the fact that she won showed that it was Coaches game to lose. The story was Coach dropped the ball with his HONOR AND INTEGRITY bit and Sophie won by default. The Jury thought she was kind of bratty and Albert was seen as shady so there you go. I do however think Kim is like Danny in many ways. Staying low-key out of all the drama, but Un-like Danny WhamFinal 3 Second place to Sabrina :-) Last Edited By: LooneyTunes 03/09/12 05:28 PM. Edited 1 times.
RussellsHiddenIdol		#3	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 05:26 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	You know, I was hoping I wasn't going to end my comment with something hasty like that. You are right, I went off on a tangent at the end. You are referring to the rankings she does with Gordon Holmes right? From listening to her talk about the players on Tribal Talk, I was under the impression that she was a Kim supporter. Sorry that I mislead people at the end. I don't know who she officially "endorses" so to speak, but there is evidence that she thinks highly of Kim in her game play and has marked it as one of the standouts in that regard.
juicyfruit		#4	[-]
Posts: 2516 03/09/12 05:29 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sophie got the edit she got because she was in an alliance filled with distractions and the other tribe had Ozzy and Cochran too. This season is much more evenly edited so you can't really compare the two just yet.
RussellsHiddenIdol		#5	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 05:37 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	LooneyTunes, you are spot on about the Danni edit! I am confused though why our theories about the editing cannot both make sense. In my analysis, there is room for your argument. I agree about the whole overall story arc being about Coach's game to lose and Sophie sucking it up at the end. She did that thought because she was such a brilliant strategist like you said. Keep in mind that Sophie had already won that game before the editors drew up the storyline for the show. They have to edit Sophie somehow, but I think a lot was lost on the cutting room floor because she was in a season with 3 big characters like you said. There are also individual differences in personality, I agree. Kim definitely won't be getting the bratty girl image, but I'm sure some other flaw will appear in her character just like in every Survivor.
RussellsHiddenIdol		#6	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 05:43 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	This still does not erase the fact that her edit is similar in that both were edited immediately in the first episode with having a degree of adaptability that proves to be helpful in their game.
LooneyTunes		#7	[-]
Posts: 1107 03/09/12 05:51 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Danni, Sophie, and Kim are all quiet gamers who keep there strategic game in focus and make moves in the end when it really counts. Notice how most of the cast expect for Kim and Jay seem to be distractions of some sort.
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RussellsHiddenIdol		#8	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 05:56 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It will be interesting if they both end up on the same tribe next week if this tribal switch really happens.
Cfc		#9	[-]
Posts: 1737 03/09/12 06:19 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Kim is not like Danni at all neither is Sophie. We saw absolutely no strategy talk from Danni pre-F6. She was so WTF winner. She seemed like she won just because no one liked Steph. I don't know many things she done well for her game. Except the social game. While Sophie is opposite, she had horrible social game. Kim seems to be triple threat. The only thing all three of them have in common is: Physical Threat, and that's it. Stop generalizing players. ''If woman is low-key edited, she's Danni/V type player''. Whatever. Can someone tell me what low-key woman edit means? Looks like it's: ''not OTT or 5vis''. -.- Also Danni was very UTR and both Sophie and Kim aren't so please people stop comparing these women. Danni is low-key, Sophie is middle-key and Kim is still up in the air. I feel better after this.
Jedijake		#10	[-]
Posts: 7561 03/09/12 07:00 PM MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It's a good comparison for a typical female winner edit (not that we've had a whole of female winners anyway). However, Kim is a souped up version. She's already had more at this point than both Danni and Sophie combined (I think). Every confessional is important to the main themes. She had a LONG scene with Colton in episode 2 AND has been shown as a "go to" person for both Chelsea and Sabrina in episodes 2 and 4 before tribal council, being the voice of reason expressing concerns about voting outside of the main alliance but also understanding the reasons to do so. Danni and Sophie were mainly fluff at this point. Kim has NOT been fluff. She's been outside of the drama (although we have seen hints of it). But I can definitely see the comparison. If anything, if Kim wins, I can see her edit being what we would have WANTED both Danni and Sophie's edit to be had they not shared their respective seasons with screen-whore returnees. That being said, Kim is sharing it with a newbie screen-whore and is still getting good confessionals. I'd be more inclined to look at Kim as a lightened version of Earl-that is IF she wins of course. It's WAY early to know. She certainly has been very consistent.
RussellsHiddenIdol		#11	[-]
Posts: 148 03/09/12 07:21 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jedijake thanks for the post :)
Bendis		#12	[-]
Posts: 88 03/09/12 08:49 PM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	RussellsHiddenIdol wrote: LooneyTunes, you are spot on about the Danni edit! I am confused though why our theories about the editing cannot both make sense. In my analysis, there is room for your argument. I agree about the whole overall story arc being about Coach's game to lose and Sophie sucking it up at the end. She did that thought because she was such a brilliant strategist like you said. Keep in mind that Sophie had already won that game before the editors drew up the storyline for the show. They have to edit Sophie somehow, but I think a lot was lost on the cutting room floor because she was in a season with 3 big characters like you said. There are also individual differences in personality, I agree. Kim definitely won't be getting the bratty girl image, but I'm sure some other flaw will appear in her character just like in every Survivor. No, it's like you said in your posts all over, LooneyTunes said ''good strategic '' (I would say average strategic due to the competition like Brandon, Edna, Rick, Albert). It sounds more like a pumping-up Sophie thread than a Kim's edit thread. Many people on other threads are talking about Kim's edit comparing with Sophie's, Danni's or others edit, so why open a new one pointing Sophie G. Klarke like Sophie is more important?? This is S24, Kim & comp. editting are important.... and if Kim (or other) win this, it will be a difficult win because it's over a tough competition and different twists than the confortable South Pacific season.
RussellsHiddenIdol		#13	[-]
Posts: 148 03/11/12 12:15 AM Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Bendis....I could care less whether people like Sophie or not. I probably would have voted for Coach that season if I was on the jury. He played the best game but he fucking sucked at the end because he had no balls and couldn't just say "I played you all" because it would undermine the honor and integrity he supposedly built his game around. So, no, this is not a build Sophie up thread. That bitch has a million dollars, I don't think she needs or wants anybody to "build her up." I can also start any thread I'd like. Do you have any ideas about this season? Do tell, I would LOVE to hear your thoughts, or are you just a 16 year old boy that is too afraid to start a post of their own so they just make passive aggressive posts on other people's threads? Also, just want to make the point that you obviously have NO idea about the point that I was making. I am not comparing Sophie's game to Kim's game. I am comparing their EDITING to each other. I don't give a rats ass about how much harder this season is compared to South Pathetic, I mean Pacific, I am only talking in terms of their edit. I will laugh when Kim wins this season and you're wrong. And good "stragetic"....No no no honey, Looney tunes said good strategist. That's spelled s-t-r-a-t-e-g-i-s-t. Last Edited By: RussellsHiddenIdol 03/11/12 12:21 AM. Edited 2 times.
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