S24 - Episode 11 - Solving Riddles in MESS Hall Tribal Council Forum

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04/20/12 08:58 PM

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nadremllov wrote:
i dont understand how people keep discounting Troyzan.....why does everyone think the final 5 is all girls? there is something to this Troyzan versus everyone storyline and the fact that Alicia had that confessional about him being a monster of immunity challenges and how she needs to side with him..EVERYONE thinks its all female...its getting kind of annoying....

We are all allowed our opinions here.

Sorry it annoys you.

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survivorgirl22 wrote:
I think it'll be a predictable boot and they're showcasing the girls paranoia because it's more interesting than the actual boot,lol.

Yup. Troy is toast.

If the slip'n'slide is an RC/IC, it probably starts with two teams of four, with the winning team competing for the IN. By the peg colours and lane choices, it's Chelsea, Kat, Troy and CorS versus Kim, Alicia, Greg and CorS. Alicia's having trouble sliding but I can see Kat losing the comp for the black team. Kim wins individual immunity and chooses Chelsea and Alicia for the picnic. The 'Kat fight' is simply Kat being upset with not being selected for the reward. Troy offers up his vote, misleading strategy&confessionals abound, and Troy predictably gets voted out.

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I think in a final 4 position, Kim/Chelsea can convince the other 2 girls to vote for each other by offering both a final 3 spot.

In my opinion, the final 7 is the trickiest time. IF the girls split, they can get a 4th vote from the last guy.

Who knows what Tarzan has cooking in whose kitchen. After all, he DID vote for Leif last episode, somehow realizing it was the smart thing to do in case of a tie vote.

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Oowatanite wrote:
survivorgirl22 wrote:
I think it'll be a predictable boot and they're showcasing the girls paranoia because it's more interesting than the actual boot,lol.

Yup. Troy is toast.

If the slip'n'slide is an RC/IC, it probably starts with two teams of four, with the winning team competing for the IN. By the peg colours and lane choices, it's Chelsea, Kat, Troy and CorS versus Kim, Alicia, Greg and CorS. Alicia's having trouble sliding but I can see Kat losing the comp for the black team. Kim wins individual immunity and chooses Chelsea and Alicia for the picnic. The 'Kat fight' is simply Kat being upset with not being selected for the reward. Troy offers up his vote, misleading strategy&confessionals abound, and Troy predictably gets voted out.

Five are in camp after, can't be group..Why would a member of the winning reward team be left off even if they continued on to indiv IC?

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When was it indicated the IC and RC were combined??? I think RC happens, and at camp, the losers talk, Troy wins IC, and Kat feels nervous she is going or she feels left out because she wasn't pick to go on the reward. Or, Troy loses IC, but Kat is still pissed about not being picked.

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04/20/12 09:45 PM

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According to the promo there's a 'wet and wild immunity challenge' and 'the lucky winners enjoy a picnic vacation'. Could be poor wording, but that implies combined reward and immunity.

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No there are two sentences one mentions the IC. The other a reward.

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crocophile wrote:
Oowatanite wrote:
survivorgirl22 wrote:
I think it'll be a predictable boot and they're showcasing the girls paranoia because it's more interesting than the actual boot,lol.

Yup. Troy is toast.

If the slip'n'slide is an RC/IC, it probably starts with two teams of four, with the winning team competing for the IN. By the peg colours and lane choices, it's Chelsea, Kat, Troy and CorS versus Kim, Alicia, Greg and CorS. Alicia's having trouble sliding but I can see Kat losing the comp for the black team. Kim wins individual immunity and chooses Chelsea and Alicia for the picnic. The 'Kat fight' is simply Kat being upset with not being selected for the reward. Troy offers up his vote, misleading strategy&confessionals abound, and Troy predictably gets voted out.

Five are in camp after, can't be group..Why would a member of the winning reward team be left off even if they continued on to indiv IC?

The winner of the IN goes on the reward and selects two people to go with them. Alicia/Kim and Chelsea are on different teams so the reward thing is not a team thing (if the RC/IC is true).

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What about two different courses? Since it looks like a heads up event.

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04/21/12 10:10 AM

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Why would it be combined IC/RC? There's no need to save time for anything.

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Boston Rob Mariano wrote:
Why would it be combined IC/RC? There's no need to save time for anything.

Maybe they want to show intro.

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04/21/12 06:42 PM

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VO: Wednesday, on Survivor, there's a crack in the all-girl alliance, but will the women turn on each other?
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Time of day Kat is upset, and Kat and Kim fight. Sun is overhead in shelter scend and on Kat's hair when sad.

No light reflection in the confrontation scene. Hard to say if it is overcast or very late in day. Thoughts?

Kat's hair is parted the same in shelter and with Kim, same clothes.

Back to the press release, the feelings of alienation teaser would seem to cover the fight, and be pre-TC, not pre immunity challenge.

Washing up scene, sun is close to overhead:

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OFG, notice when Kat's wearing a buff around her neck and when she isn't. That helps sort out the scenes.

The other thing I've been working on is the girl's hair, especially Sabrina's, when it's up on their heads and when it's down and of course, when it looks really oily.

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Good point ...

btw, my post was a follow-up to my posts in the Challenge topic ... I am really scattered here.

The shelter is post challenge. If I am right, she talks to Kim after the winners get back, so easy to take buff off in interim.

Kat's hair in shelter matches talk with Kim.

But yeah, when they are washing in water, the challenge buffs are off, so maybe this is whole different day.

Are we sure that is oil shining and not sunshine on them?

Also, we know that oil isn't coming off right away without soap, as water doesn't totally remove oil. It will get absorbed by dry skin though.

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I don't think they'd wait a day to wash off the oil.

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04/21/12 08:11 PM

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Re the Kat fight with Kim.

Here's the transcript from the preview, credit VG:

Kat: "I'm furious today. I had a ..."
Kim: (speaking over Kat) "It's not easy for me, today, either. This is my worst day out here."

If Kim had just returned from a picnic or from winning the IC , she could hardly say "this is my worst day out here."

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Unless she was trying to make Kat feel better by saying she hated having to pick between her friends

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Are we sure she is furious at Kat, rather than just furious at Tarzan or Troyzan or lying or the damn bats or etc? Could Kim have taken Kat off for a walk because she's afraid she's going to blurt something out that will tear up all the interlocking alliances? She's trying to calm Kat down, but is edgy herself instead of her usual aplomb?

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Wezzie wrote:
Re the Kat fight with Kim.

Here's the transcript from the preview, credit VG:

Kat: "I'm furious today. I had a ..."
Kim: (speaking over Kat) "It's not easy for me, today, either. This is my worst day out here."

If Kim had just returned from a picnic or from winning the IC , she could hardly say "this is my worst day out here."

That sounds like one day reward, not a multi-day trek. More evidence of a normal 3 day cycle? Kat is shown crying in the shelter after the RC because she is left off. When Kim returns they have the confrontation the "bad day". We just haven't seen the RC. They obviously bury the hatchet by the time they scrub off the oil after the IC.

Kim just feels bad because she chose Alicia for reward in a strategic move to make sure she's with them since Alicia hinted some cracks last TC.

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