S24 - Episode 11 - Solving Riddles in MESS Hall Tribal Council Forum

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04/23/12 12:40 AM

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Yes, watching Kat's hair part shift helps, thanks Wezzie. I had noted Kat's part in my earlier post (with caps), as it is the same in the shelter and talking to Kim, parted on her right, but hadn't looked at all the caps.

OK, She has it parted on her left while bathing, and while talking to Troyzan post RC.

As croc said, that is post IC. She probably puts on the pink top after she bathes.

This is, we think, post RC. I'm not 100% Troy doesn't look oily in this pic though, but Kat definitely shines less in the pics with Jay's shirt on.

Here she is crying, most likely she has just walked away, as the box she was sitting on became empty, which shows she left the group.

Her part probably does shift easily, because you can see when she puts her head down crying that it flops down and almost loses the part.

Here she has the same part as when crying, but the buff is gone.

This could be later, buff off, hair pulled straight back. Sabrina still has buff as headband. Kat still upset, same clothes, probably not much later.

Note that in the scene with Kim, Kat has no buff but her hair is parted as in the group shelter pics, so possibly the scene with Kim is before the above shot in the shelter with Sabrina, as she has changed her hair by then.

Then we also have Kat with hoodie and buff around neck, hair unknown, at some time I know not when.

Thanks to Wezzie and croc for pointing out oiliness, buffs, hair parts, clothes, hair up and down! :)

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04/23/12 10:42 AM

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I think what people are saying about it potentially being a challenge where they ask the castaways what they think of each other (i.e. laziest, biggest threat, undeserving, smelliest, etc.) is very possible. It makes sense given Kat's sudden awareness of being thought of as spineless. It would also explain Kim being upset, perhaps at being labelled as a threat or whatnot. This would lend itself to the fact that they aren't on reward. Neither is Tarzan based on the image. This would seem to be an individual challenge where someone picks people to join them. Troy would pick Tarzan, I believe. Plus it would add salt to the wounds for them not to be picked to join one of the women. I think Alicia or Sabrina are likely winners for this one, picking one another and potentially Chelsea as well.

Also why is everyone saying Troy is toast? Do we have evidence that someone else won immunity?

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04/23/12 10:45 AM

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I LUV TIJUANA wrote:
I think what people are saying about it potentially being a challenge where they ask the castaways what they think of each other (i.e. laziest, biggest threat, undeserving, smelliest, etc.) is very possible. It makes sense given Kat's sudden awareness of being thought of as spineless. It would also explain Kim being upset, perhaps at being labelled as a threat or whatnot. This would lend itself to the fact that they aren't on reward. Neither is Tarzan based on the image. This would seem to be an individual challenge where someone picks people to join them. Troy would pick Tarzan, I believe. Plus it would add salt to the wounds for them not to be picked to join one of the women. I think Alicia or Sabrina are likely winners for this one, picking one another and potentially Chelsea as well.

Also why is everyone saying Troy is toast? Do we have evidence that someone else won immunity?

I would also like to know this.

erickman

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04/23/12 10:57 AM

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well that was when people were thinking only 1 challange for rc and ic and troy was not on reward, but if there is another challange for reward then troy may win ic, if he don't he is toast.

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04/23/12 11:28 AM

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I think he's toast because he's trying to make this 4 person alliance including Kat and Sabrina. We know with Kat it is post IC since she is a bit greasy. Last week he was defiant after he won the IN. Seems to me an act of desperation this week.

It's possible the women buy the Hidden Idol and they fumble the vote, or maybe he really does have an HI.

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04/23/12 11:31 AM

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i would love for him to pull out a surprise idol like gary did.

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04/23/12 12:30 PM

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Funny I was thinking the same thing.

rattatouillelavender

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04/23/12 02:44 PM

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his edit is too good for 8th place. I think he either finds an idol, or he convinces naive Kat to vote with him, Tarzan and Christina and there is a split vote at tribal council with Kat flipping and one of the women leaving. Remember last episode at tribal, Alicia was asked about flipping and she said she's struggling, and Troy pointed out that Kat, Sabrina, Kim and Chelsea were all secure and can do whatever they want? Is it possible that Kat is actually the one that ends up flipping the vote and eliminating one of the women when she realizes she is not actually in the end game alliance? Would explain the whole dream scenario with her and Alicia earlier on, with Kat turning on Alicia and her alliance thus weakening them. Just a thought.

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04/23/12 02:47 PM

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Either way, its going to probably be one of the best tribals in recent memory because that whole comment of Chelsea's "take it like a man" will come into play simply because Troyzan is an emotional guy and he will put all of his heart into the game and even if he gets voted out I still see him coming up with some sort of scenario, flushing out Kim's idol would be amazing, making her very vulnerable for the end game.

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04/23/12 02:47 PM

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Cochran's edit was too good for 7th place. So was Rupert for 8th's, etc. etc.

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04/23/12 02:49 PM

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Yeah I agree with that, the only difference is that Cochran actually decided the end game on his own by flipping, so I'm just wondering what the point of shoving Troyzan down our throats was if he gets eliminated this episode, thats all I'm wondering, I mean he was an overkill character like Cochran, but Cochran had a personal growth story as well as decided the endgame.

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04/23/12 03:08 PM

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They've done some weird things with the editing this season. Showing the "My Island" bit several times. Kat (I think) was doubting the women hold together, & her dream re Alicia, plus showing the Chelsea/Kim/Jay/Troy alliance on the front burner for 3 eps prior to the merge and having it wilt on the vine post merge...it's like anti-editing the stuff doesn't come true.

rattatouillelavender

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04/23/12 03:19 PM

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Yeah its almost crazy. I dont know what to make of it all. Its too confusing, thats why I won't even try the Edgic thread LOL

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04/23/12 03:54 PM

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If troy is voted out now, I would agree that his edit was too good. They could have fleshed out some women, specifically Christina way more if she in fact does outlast him. But again, this is wrong thread for it.

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04/23/12 03:59 PM

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not to get off topic but I actually don't think his edit was that good until the Jay boot episode.He's second in confessionals but that's sort of misleading because 14 of them came last episode.I agree they should have fleshed out Christina more but I don't think Troy has been a big presence for the entire season but maybe that's just me.

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04/23/12 04:24 PM

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I agree about Troy going since he probably loses IC, but the only thing that makes me think otherwise is his tweet about Kim and the girls.

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04/23/12 04:29 PM

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Yeah but I've read all his tweets and basically all of them are negative about the girls.Calling them cocky,liars,saying Alicia has a bush head(Lol),if he really succeeded at getting one or two of them out then why would what they say on tv /the edit bother him/make him That upset if he beats them?

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04/23/12 04:33 PM

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Yeah, I agree, but for me that tweet is kind of random. It's not really a negative thing like an insult, per say, it's more of a hint that the girls scatter and something crazy happens.

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04/23/12 04:41 PM

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I mentioned this in the other thread but he keeps mentioning that it was 10 minutes before tribal and at that time she was only going to give 3 votes to Jay..I personally thought he was trying to imply production helping her out there/rigging since he had been complaining about production in his previous tweets.I definitely don't think that myself but that's what I thought he meant when he tweeted that.But we'll see soon enough,you could be right that he lasts a little while longer.

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04/23/12 05:12 PM

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yeah but then he could also make the argument that production helped him find an idol. Him and Kim both found them in trees, so I mean it goes both ways. Obviously production loves both of them because they are the centrals. I would disagree with people that say he wasn't that important all season. He was the first to give a confessional about the women being unable to handle themselves and he was even singled out by Jeff at the premiere and then he said the girls dont know what they're getting themselves into. He also has had a ton of winner quotes and he had a great merge episode so it looks like either production is pissed that he loses and thus everyone except Kim gets a shitty edit or they're pleased that both him and Kim made it far. Either way, they are screwing with us.

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